Message from @ETBrooD
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It's funny how feminism has reached even DPRK, with objectifying stare.
Only the pudgy potato sack gets to look at the women.
convo on a new type of goverment with a free market and smaller gov in other (pol) chat. You can come in for points of reference and small questions. Other than that please have yourself muted
"Only the pudgy potato sack gets to look at the women."
The scary part is that with the food scarcity DPRK, most people staring at the police lady would probably eat her (the more literal way).
> Alexander Hamilton 1802 on the dangers of mass migration: "To admit foreigners indiscriminately...would be nothing less, than to admit the Grecian Horse into the Citadel of our Liberty & Sovereignty." #AmericaFirst
What, he debated someone again?
Again? Sargon or Vaush?
Well, in this instance, both.
Thought Sargon retired from debates cause he got rekt so often
It seems video and audio gets seriously out-of-synch in just a few minutes into the stream.
Well.. it wasnt a debate but a whinefest about words
Sargon getting rekt... hmmm... I mean, I remember him vs. Kristi Winters with him losing before debate started due to frame game (i.e definiting winning conditions so that Sargon had burden of proof, then getting gish-galloped with dozen feminist studies).
I don't consider some of the most notorious "rekt" moments like Sargon vs. Spencer to be a "Sargon eternally pwned". It was Spencer being a slimy shitfuck and not answering even the simplest of questions.
Sargon doesn't do very well in formal debates because in formal debates, you don't debate with honesty (i.e trying to argue with the opponent, rather you try to win the audience, and you do it within rules and preset goals).
And Internet Bloodsports is similar: there's no discussion and attempt at understanding other or changing other's position or self-improvement. It's just like a formal debate, only you remove the rules and preset goal, and do constant character assassination because your opponent is your opponent, not their position.
Like, if you debate Enoch, you don't debate stupidity of white nationalism, you rather bring up that he's a racemixing Kike fucker.
@ETBrooD Gish-gallop is useful in a formal debate, because if both sides have 10 minutes, you can put more than 10 false assertion in that time, while the opponent only has time to debunk 1 or 2 of them properly. It's what 6oodfella calls: *"It'll only take a few minutes to spray a room full of shit but it takes a whole day clean up that shit."* That is practically what gish-gallop is.
Yeah I learned a while back it's neccessary to go into the offensive and not get too tangled up in blocking every single stab
I personally think white nationalists are dumb because by their own standards Asians are superior to white people, meaning that whites are not supreme
Im thankful that I delayed going to bed for this debate. This'll remind me to stop watching these shitshows.
I don't think WN's are dumb at all, have you tried debating them on the facts of the situation alone rather than their goals?
@ETBrooD I don't think knowledge of statistics and talking points is on the same axis as dumb<->intelligent.
I'm only comparing them to the average populace
And WNs do have a good strategy to appear to be in the right, to have as much as possible data as possible to support or appear to support their position.
If average = not dumb, then WN's aren't dumb in my metric
I'm pretty sure they have their ways of cataloging those statistic for ad hoc usage, while their opponents tend not to have. Or, the progressives surely do, and that's called "RationalWiki" (which is about as much a misnomer as possible), but the non-SJWs don't really have such quick reference sources against all the "race science" Alt-Right spews left and right in rather gish-galloping manner.
I've done more than just listen to their talking points
The only time non-SJWs tried to collect a databank of assertions, facts and debunks on AR, it was framed as "doxing server" by the AR and their non-AR supporters.
Yeah, I'm referring to Kraut and Metokur.
I've debated them, dissected and deconstructed their ideas, with the exception of some ideas they hold up
But all those debates were wasted, because the results aren't documented anywhere.
I've argued with members of AR as well, but that's also been a waste of time.