This is similar to Hoppe's societies of voluntary communes which don't allow gays or blacks etc. It might happen that someone's child might not consent to it and it would break down the society

Either way, my argument is that if you say that nationalism leans towards collectivism, I will agree.

Like I said, you have to think outside of the human realm.

An equally or more intelligent species can have nationalism that isn't neccessarily collectivist.

Since them not consenting won't annul property rights

Anyway, brb

> That's why it's complex and can't be done with human societies

Why is there a discussion on it then?

American Nationalism extrapolated from our civic values, for example, @ETBrooD, the true form of American patriotism.

@Jeremy American Nationalism is based on Germanic Europeans with some other Europeans thrown in.

@Goddess Tyche because of Ford's use of "inherent"

It most certainly isn't, rather it's rooted in Natural Law philosophy, which branches down from Anglicism.

It's inherent in humans to form societies, those societies will most often turn into nations, and those nations will most often be collectivist. Not because it's inherent in nationalism, but because it's human nature (as an aggregate).

Do not tell me what my own family founded here, @Goddess Tyche.

It's not a discussion on what, rather on who.

I agree with the Natural Law via Anglicism thing. I contest that you can have that without the proper racial and cultural background.

There are different types of nationalisms

A family member of mine, Baldur von Schirach, onetime leader of the Hitler Youth and later Governor ("Gauleiter" or "Reichsstatthalter") of the Reichsgau Vienna, shared your view, @Goddess Tyche. However, we did eventually bring him to justice for his crimes.

*Hitler breathed air, which is now a crime*

Jeremy, kill yourself.

No, wait, just go to Chicago and get 13-50ed

@ETBrooD That just means you need to get state-approved air tanks

The state approved air has the molecules that Hitler liked to breathe the most separated and removed

Know you live in the shadows of an ancestor of mine and his ideology, @Goddess Tyche.

@Xaverius Due to your questionable online activities, the Department of Health has decided to revoke your daily dose of oxygen.

The only person that should kill themselves, is you, @Goddess Tyche.

*An army of Nazi soldiers streamed across the borders to France, inhaling the depths of hell out of Hitler's breathalizer*

You'll be saving me the time of having to do it for you, when we meet on the opposite sides of the battlefield.

> Race doesn't matter
> Liberia

What

@Jeremy Race War already?

Of course, the amerikkkan thinks it's still the Cold War and all slavs must be purged for communism.

The president of Liberia is Weah, hahah

I will fight for the slavs

What the fuck?

All in the name of slav-ery

Yea

They keep using the s-word

That's our word

Gib reparations

@Xaverius communists should pay reparations to the slavs <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

The word *Slav* originates from the same word as *slovo*, which means "word" or "letter" and is cognate with *slava*, "fame"