Message from @Kealor
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oh ya i sure you want to buy all that north korean goods
@baiyn Yeah, it's kinda like this. Usually when people do that, it's either out of moral principles or for the sake of ecnomic gain. Like messing with your neighbours cause it may lead you to be able to take their car for your own or because you disagree with whatever the neighbours do (whatever it may be, from selling drugs to having garden gnomes)
So whether it's good depends on the particular cause of why who is messing with who.
also international politics
there are principles for a just war
set forth by saint thomas aquinas
that are perfectly fine
could be that toppling one damages relation with an ally in such a way that is not beneficial to you
And some people I am sure want to topple governments for reasons along the lines of some of those principles, but not all
dont need war to topple a regime
fuck i guess ill do what i allways do an put neutral on the ambiguous ones
That's why it's really case-by-case thing. Though either way, usually nowadays people mess with the shit of other people because either ideology or profit.
my solution to unjust regimes is just nuke the place
if they're that unjust it's justified
if not then stop trying to interfere
No, nuking isn't justified. Huge collateral, you may cripple the regime but not destroy it but you will surely punish many innocents already suffering under the regime
i can think of situations where nuking is justified
In some situations, sure, so can I. But not toppling regimes.
why not toppling regimes?
either the regime is that bad, or it isn't
make your mind up
Because of the abovementioned reasons. Regimes are usually shitloads of people spread all around the country, among regular citizens. Regime isn't some single figurehead
exactly
nuke the lot > less regimes
it is good to nuke the regimes
So nuking it effectively would mean nuking everyone, including regular people living under that regime who did nothing wrong
also nuking infrastructure, whatever of value the country had before the regime
you want regime?
we nuke regime.
less regime.
Less everything.
alles happy
#smilingchildren
It's like curing the cancer with hand grenades
it works
less cancer in the world
sure, the cancer won't spread, but the patient will die. Technically, a success but the collateral makes it pyrrhiv victory and I am sure you know that.
but that doesn't make sense as an argument