then you have ontological teleological and cosmological arguments

Well that is a bit of a stalemate storin since both things are impossible to prove at least by one man alone

but you don't pay attention

because atheism is a cult

of retards

The natural state is god does not exist, and you must show that he does but also not only his inability to deal with evil but also explain the hundreds of other gods and pantheons there of

No

fake news

many atheist are smarter than christians

Religon does not dictate intlelect

only morals

well given that you're a christian caesar

cough cough

i see your point

albert Einstein. jew

Fundamentally if a God exists it is a very unjust God, He says that we must follow his rules or we will suffer for eternity yet has left us in a world with thousands of different religions saying the same thing.

no

omegalul got me baiyin

it is an extremely just god

yea im not spelling anytrhing well today

Exactly Lizard

According to the Eden story he isn't very Just

i don't see how you don't udnerstnad that we wrong God

I think the issue is people blame mans mistakes on God

some of the smartest men/women on earth are religious

look at jews

and that we are his creatures

only by God's grace can we be saved

it is like if your dad gave you a nice sandbox full of perfect stuff and you pooped in it and went "DAD MY SANDBOX IS DIRTY"

there is little left but to ask forgiveness

Throwing Adam and Eve out for one mistake doesn't sound very benevolent and just at all

that's by your standards

Adam and even didnt make a mistake

they failed a test

Either their god has the power and he chooses not to in which case he is a bad god, or he does not have power and therefore he is not all powerful, not only that but the only way they can interpret their god is through literal madmen, so what if they are wrong, what if God and Jesus actually like knocking one out to rape and murder...

context

i don't really think God cares what you think @The Electric Lizard

God gave free will

Well storin again

God is not responsible for the madness man has made

God is very considerate then isn't he