Tubby Duck we can expand into space and travel to other stars, if we can over come our current crises of foundational belief and prevent civilisation collapsing.

What we should really do is just fulfil Nietzsche's idea of the Ubermench and just have everyone create their own purpose rather then relying on a fake divinely given purpose

Tubby... You don't have to believe in him to have a similar motivation to him. The distruction of humanity, all that might be called good and/ God's creation in it's entirety

Nihilism isn't good because it teaches that there is no morality at all. It encourages evil behavior and thinking. I think we intuitively see there is a morality, that there is good and evil.

Thats like saying I have similar motivations to any fictional character that wants to destroy humanity. Who fucking cares, there's no validity to that statement

The Electric lizard. Accept people have tried and every time they did it became a nightmare. Both the Nazi's (quite openly) and Communists tried to form their own moral systems.

But good and evil aren't defined by any religion, they're just attempts at it

Morals are constructs. If morals are inherent, why do only humans practice them?

They defined what they did as moral

We don't need a moral system

We can do things based on practicality

Because morals benefit the species over trime

Plus Morals are inherit in most people anyway

*time

You don'tneed morality to make any system, that is retarded, you can make systems based on the golden rule, and if you don't think that is possible go and put a fork in a wall socket tell me why you refuse <:PepeLaugh:565528391336329216>

I've done that before

I'm not calling for a new moral system though, I just think people should just be encouraged to decide their own purpose in life instead of relying on a fake divine purpose

I've done that like 20 times

But Christianity doesn't give a fake divine purpose as such

It says that God has a Divine Plan in motion

The most monstrous absurdity of Christianity is Original Sin.

That would imply that everyone already has a pre-set role in the world

It merely concerns itself with how we should live

Also anyone arguing for a moral based system is literally making the SAME argument that lefties make about speech and rights etc <:shrug:349342983763656705>

God's plan is his alone though it's not ours to know and as such doesn't dictate anything upon you

It claims that everyone has a role to fulfil in the world

That role would have been predetermined in God's divine plan

It removes any incentive for people to try and seek out their own purpose

If god is all powerful, then his plan involves everything, even if his plan is only his own

Storin Free speech came out of a philosophical frame work and moral system based in Christian teaching (and no where else)

As they would already have one set for them by God and his divine plan

No Electric the point is to find your purpose in that plan.

Yes, So your purpose would already be predetermined then

Free speech came from a moral system based in Christian teachings?

Christian teaching?

That's blatantly false.

You just tweaked what Jews made

You would be finding something that has already been decided for you by God's divine plan

The Christian church persecuted those who practiced free speech for centuries.

This lasted until as recently as the Spanish Inquisition in the 18th Century.

And half of what Jews made was just ripped off from the Babylonians