Message from @Maksim

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2019-08-14 17:37:43 UTC  

Stop goddamn pinging my ass

2019-08-14 19:22:00 UTC  

Remove your reaction from the rolls channel @Deleted User

2019-08-14 19:22:18 UTC  

Wtf

2019-08-15 01:27:47 UTC  

@Crazed Shotgun After reading some of your posts in here. Three questions.
1. Are you LDS?
2. What makes you believe in your interpretation of Christianity?
3. What would you say to a non-member that is tentatively interested in the church but is reluctant to dive head-first into it or otherwise take a "leap of faith"?
I've found many aspects of the church appealing for the longest time, and yet my mainstream Protestant upbringing heavily conflicts with the tenets outlined by the LDS. Nonetheless, its doctrines make intuitive sense to me, and of all religions/sects I *wish* were true, the LDS comes out on top. I just think there's a scarcity of cogent arguments/evidence for the church, maybe you can prove me wrong.

2019-08-15 02:14:39 UTC  

Yes, I'm Lds. I keep it mainly under wraps due to alot of anti-lds sentiment in alot of political servers. I believe in my scriptures and doctrine for many reasons, Most are from the Church's stance on how important family values are. Another is that all male members are given the priesthood so that they may help lead their families in times of strife, be that by giving blessings or through other prayerful listening to the Holy Spirit. I see the priesthood as a valuable tool to bring forth the values of Zion as it is described in the bible, not by the rabbi in the Babylon of Israel. Zion is not just some nation, it is a place of righteousness that comes from within all worthy and loyal members. If you are intrested in the church, I would advise going to your local LDS church, also known as a ward, and ask to have the missionaries stop by to help you gain a better understanding. I understand the sentiment of wanting to make sure that the path is right before taking any kind of risk, I was raised to question everything. The best advice I would give would be to attend church a few times, read The holy bible in addition to the book of mormon and pray for an answer to God to see if it is right. The Lord will answer your prayers in due time. If it doesn't fit, then so be it. I'm not gonna force my faith on anyone, but if you want to learn more, I encourage reaching out to the missionaries.

2019-08-15 02:14:45 UTC  
2019-08-15 05:54:44 UTC  

"Babylon of Israel"

2019-08-15 05:55:00 UTC  

the LDS is open in its direct denial of monotheism

2019-08-15 05:55:20 UTC  

claiming that there are three gods, rather then trinitarians, whom at least attempt to create an argument for monotheism

2019-08-15 15:13:55 UTC  

LDS is polytheistic?

2019-08-15 15:17:30 UTC  

From what I've read it does not sound Christian

2019-08-15 15:18:24 UTC  

@Crazed Shotgun I'm appauled about how LDS thinks about the Trinity

2019-08-15 15:18:44 UTC  

"God has a father"

2019-08-15 15:19:06 UTC  

"God has a mother"

2019-08-15 15:19:11 UTC  

This is a cult

2019-08-15 15:22:12 UTC  

" A Council of the Gods. In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it."
Joseph Smith

2019-08-15 15:25:41 UTC  

The book of Mormon is literal heresy

2019-08-15 15:27:58 UTC  

@Crazed Shotgun How do you not realize the book or Mormon is directly contradictory to the Bible and is heretical

2019-08-15 15:28:22 UTC  

Mormons must be oppressed and shutdown in order to stop this heresy

2019-08-15 15:29:09 UTC  

@G a b e גבריאל not just 3 gods

2019-08-15 15:29:16 UTC  

Infinitely many Gods

2019-08-15 15:30:00 UTC  

"If we should take a million of worlds like this and number their particles, we should find that there are more Gods than there are particles of matter in those worlds... One world has a personal God or Father, and the inhabitants thereof worship the attributes of that God, another world has another, and they worship His attributes... "

2019-08-15 15:30:20 UTC  

Orson Pratt, a Mormon "Apostle"

Literal Heresy

2019-08-15 16:35:01 UTC  

LDS is not Christian. Rejects most core tentents of Christianity.

2019-08-15 16:50:21 UTC  

"but Mormonism is muh based"

2019-08-15 18:56:34 UTC  

@Maksim Even worse

2019-08-15 19:42:28 UTC  

@Crazed Shotgun Thanks for the advice. I know what you mean, maybe I should have DMed you. The anti-LDS sentiment is strong, and that ironically makes it all the more alluring. Still, I was looking more to see if you had any philosophical/apologetic arguments that you found cogent. But, this will do, I suppose. It is a byproduct of the Second Great Awakening, after all, so you can't expect some kind of Thomist parallel.

2019-08-15 20:09:45 UTC  

This is specifically why I refuse to have a conversation about my faith with any individual, it is nothing but attacks. Rather than a conversation, it is a mud flinging contest to see who can attack the other most efficiently. I'm tired of hearing the same arguments over and over. If anyone wishes to seek out answers to inquiries, feel free to PM me but if you just want to use "gotcha" arguments and belittle my faith, please locate the nearest toliet and place your face into the bowl.

2019-08-15 21:02:25 UTC  

@everyone -Daily Question

How much of a role does religion play in society? Would it be better for society to have an established religion to push the society in one direction or another? What religion would you put in power if you could?

2019-08-15 21:02:39 UTC  

none

2019-08-15 21:02:55 UTC  

the government should do everything it can to remove the stain of religion

2019-08-15 21:06:19 UTC  

The state should be ruled in accordance with religion, namely Islam

2019-08-15 21:06:29 UTC  

<:garfilf:606968189640769668>

2019-08-15 21:06:32 UTC  

@Perception but why

2019-08-15 21:06:39 UTC  

<:smug:591181720565579807>

2019-08-15 21:07:11 UTC  

do you mean why Islam or why theocracy?

2019-08-15 21:07:43 UTC  

why the religion of the creepers from minecraft

2019-08-15 21:07:51 UTC  

>tfw no fashy White Supremacist theocrat gf

2019-08-15 21:07:58 UTC  

theocracy is fuckign stupid

2019-08-15 21:08:11 UTC  

theocracy is based if its the right religion

2019-08-15 21:08:13 UTC  

white supremacy is also dumbassery