Message from @Veraic
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So god does desire us to follow his desires?
Wdym?
God desires us to follow his desires, and following necessitates free will
On gods view it would be a better world if we did everything it says we should?
God desires us to follow his desire to follow his law.
No ad hominem, just curious.
Hindu
the Lord does not have material desires only spiritual
So you believe in the circle of Samsara, then.
^ yes
Material vs immaterial desires isn’t relevant
im not Hindu though, i follow the pure vedic traditions not the Dravidian shit that came after
I know, I know.
I studied the East Asian religions.
From Hinduism to Shinto.
God is not lacking anything when he desires, that's like claiming us not being pure act means God isn't pure act
What matters is the fact that a perfect being possessing a desire, which entails a potential to be out of accord with the desire, isn’t actually perfect
I already summarised it.
God isn't the subject
You have to address this
God has no desire for himself or anything about him
Address what?
thats irrelevant
Rather God's desire is in union with himself
it doesnt matter who you say the desire is for.
It does buddy
Yeah if god is out of accord with his desires, which he is in light of a single bad existing (-> Omni benevolence) then god isn’t fully actualized
And imperfect as well
its not, because your argument is that if he has desires then hes not perfect.
Gods only desire is that you follow natural law and worship him
You act as if time doesn't exist
Such low rigor in your argument
time is cyclical
I’m not sure how you actually addressed the entailment eoppa. You’re just psueding out instead of showing how a potential to be out of accord with what’s desired rules out the property of being purely actual
1) God brings things to fruition across time 2) Free will is necessary to his desires
God obviously as of right now isn’t observing a world that’s in accord with its desire
He's not out of discord with his own desire
We are