Message from @Veraic

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2019-12-12 05:15:25 UTC  

^^

2019-12-12 05:15:34 UTC  

yes thats what i meant

2019-12-12 05:15:38 UTC  

Because to have desires entails that there’s potential to be out of accord with that desire(which god is)

2019-12-12 05:15:50 UTC  

To have potential or to be actually out of accord with desires means to be imperfect

2019-12-12 05:16:05 UTC  

The desire isn't regarding himself

2019-12-12 05:16:09 UTC  

We've been over this

2019-12-12 05:16:11 UTC  

No, God is not unable to achieve, he chooses not to allow himself to achieve to safeguard free-will.

2019-12-12 05:16:11 UTC  

@Romanov so god desires us to not follow his desires

2019-12-12 05:16:18 UTC  

its not about Lord himself

2019-12-12 05:16:20 UTC  

No.

2019-12-12 05:16:21 UTC  

its purly about us

2019-12-12 05:16:22 UTC  
2019-12-12 05:16:28 UTC  

So god does desire us to follow his desires?

2019-12-12 05:16:34 UTC  

Wdym?

2019-12-12 05:16:57 UTC  

God desires us to follow his desires, and following necessitates free will

2019-12-12 05:17:05 UTC  

@Blueroad I am curious, what are your religious adherences?

2019-12-12 05:17:07 UTC  

On gods view it would be a better world if we did everything it says we should?

2019-12-12 05:17:10 UTC  

God desires us to follow his desire to follow his law.

2019-12-12 05:17:10 UTC  

No ad hominem, just curious.

2019-12-12 05:17:19 UTC  

Hindu

2019-12-12 05:17:29 UTC  

the Lord does not have material desires only spiritual

2019-12-12 05:17:34 UTC  

So you believe in the circle of Samsara, then.

2019-12-12 05:17:38 UTC  

^ yes

2019-12-12 05:17:52 UTC  

Material vs immaterial desires isn’t relevant

2019-12-12 05:18:10 UTC  

im not Hindu though, i follow the pure vedic traditions not the Dravidian shit that came after

2019-12-12 05:18:17 UTC  

I know, I know.

2019-12-12 05:18:23 UTC  

I studied the East Asian religions.

2019-12-12 05:18:28 UTC  

From Hinduism to Shinto.

2019-12-12 05:18:29 UTC  

God is not lacking anything when he desires, that's like claiming us not being pure act means God isn't pure act

2019-12-12 05:18:35 UTC  

What matters is the fact that a perfect being possessing a desire, which entails a potential to be out of accord with the desire, isn’t actually perfect

2019-12-12 05:18:44 UTC  

I already summarised it.

2019-12-12 05:18:48 UTC  

God isn't the subject

2019-12-12 05:18:52 UTC  

^

2019-12-12 05:18:53 UTC  

You have to address this

2019-12-12 05:19:12 UTC  

God has no desire for himself or anything about him

2019-12-12 05:19:21 UTC  

Address what?

2019-12-12 05:19:23 UTC  

thats irrelevant

2019-12-12 05:19:27 UTC  
2019-12-12 05:19:30 UTC  

Rather God's desire is in union with himself

2019-12-12 05:19:43 UTC  

it doesnt matter who you say the desire is for.

2019-12-12 05:19:51 UTC  

It does buddy