Message from @Veraic
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From Hinduism to Shinto.
God is not lacking anything when he desires, that's like claiming us not being pure act means God isn't pure act
What matters is the fact that a perfect being possessing a desire, which entails a potential to be out of accord with the desire, isn’t actually perfect
I already summarised it.
God isn't the subject
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You have to address this
God has no desire for himself or anything about him
Address what?
thats irrelevant
Rather God's desire is in union with himself
it doesnt matter who you say the desire is for.
It does buddy
Yeah if god is out of accord with his desires, which he is in light of a single bad existing (-> Omni benevolence) then god isn’t fully actualized
And imperfect as well
its not, because your argument is that if he has desires then hes not perfect.
Gods only desire is that you follow natural law and worship him
You act as if time doesn't exist
Such low rigor in your argument
I’m not sure how you actually addressed the entailment eoppa. You’re just psueding out instead of showing how a potential to be out of accord with what’s desired rules out the property of being purely actual
1) God brings things to fruition across time 2) Free will is necessary to his desires
God obviously as of right now isn’t observing a world that’s in accord with its desire
He's not out of discord with his own desire
We are
That's such a bad argument
God desires us to be in accord with its desires or not?
Yes he does
badd dodge
Ok
So god isnt actually existing in its best possible state because the world isn’t existing at it desires
Because we aren’t in accord with its desires
False
Which is its desires
the Lord does not change
The correct phrasing is God desires us to freely follow him
the material world can change, but that does not change the Lord
Ok so go also desires us to freely not follow him?
You’re going down the same path as the first one
lol