Message from @Veraic

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2019-12-12 05:23:48 UTC  

Either god desires sin(problem of evil) or god wants us to follow him

2019-12-12 05:23:54 UTC  

Philosophy is holistic my bud

2019-12-12 05:23:54 UTC  

God is responsible for free will

2019-12-12 05:23:56 UTC  

Try again

2019-12-12 05:24:03 UTC  

Yes?

2019-12-12 05:24:11 UTC  

So now you have a dilemma

2019-12-12 05:24:13 UTC  

God desires us to follow him freely

2019-12-12 05:24:14 UTC  

you may willingly follow God or not

2019-12-12 05:24:22 UTC  

omg lol

2019-12-12 05:24:27 UTC  

if you dont, then when you die you are reborn anew to retry

2019-12-12 05:24:28 UTC  

this is comedy

2019-12-12 05:24:38 UTC  

only the most worthy may go to him after death

2019-12-12 05:24:45 UTC  

Joy wolf this debate was settled so long ago

2019-12-12 05:24:53 UTC  

settled?

2019-12-12 05:24:54 UTC  

This is funny you guys trying to bring it back

2019-12-12 05:25:01 UTC  

you have just dogged the whole time

2019-12-12 05:25:02 UTC  

Either the problem of evil holds, and you have a separate contradiction, or god desires something that isn’t currently the case, and is imperfect and not purely actual

2019-12-12 05:25:07 UTC  

This is just a rehash of what Leibniz debunked

2019-12-12 05:25:08 UTC  

havent made one good point

2019-12-12 05:25:09 UTC  

lol

2019-12-12 05:25:14 UTC  

@Joywolf i havent even seen you argue, youve just complained and said lol

2019-12-12 05:25:25 UTC  

The way I see it, Blueroad’s maintaining the conversation, you just tag along and lob insults.

2019-12-12 05:25:26 UTC  

I've said the same answer entirely, you have the subjects and metaphysics wrong

2019-12-12 05:25:37 UTC  

@Veraic ive said what blueroad has said, we believe the same thing

2019-12-12 05:25:39 UTC  

It's such a bad argument

2019-12-12 05:25:51 UTC  

Joy wolf is a hindu

2019-12-12 05:25:54 UTC  

You haven’t actually explained how god isn’t existing in its desired circumstances

2019-12-12 05:26:06 UTC  

You just said we don’t follow him and he wants us to follow him freely

2019-12-12 05:26:17 UTC  

Well guess what people aren’t following him freely

2019-12-12 05:26:19 UTC  

God is pure act, God actualized what he desires, he actualized free will

2019-12-12 05:26:26 UTC  

Is this contradictory to you?

2019-12-12 05:26:31 UTC  

So god actualized sin as well then

2019-12-12 05:26:37 UTC  

So you accept the problem of evil

2019-12-12 05:26:43 UTC  

Sin is a privation from act

2019-12-12 05:26:49 UTC  

This is basic stuff my man

2019-12-12 05:27:12 UTC  

I don’t see how that is relevant on an Omni trait god view

2019-12-12 05:27:37 UTC  

Sin is a privation from act, God actualized the possibility of sin if that's what you mean

2019-12-12 05:27:37 UTC  

im not a hindu lol

2019-12-12 05:27:43 UTC  

It's a joke pea brain

2019-12-12 05:28:04 UTC  

Either god is perfectly good, actual, powerful, knowledgeable, etc and things are existing in there best possible state, or god isn’t those things and things aren’t in there best possible state

2019-12-12 05:28:20 UTC  

Red herring