Message from @Veraic
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Either god desires sin(problem of evil) or god wants us to follow him
Philosophy is holistic my bud
God is responsible for free will
Try again
Yes?
So now you have a dilemma
God desires us to follow him freely
you may willingly follow God or not
omg lol
if you dont, then when you die you are reborn anew to retry
this is comedy
only the most worthy may go to him after death
Joy wolf this debate was settled so long ago
settled?
This is funny you guys trying to bring it back
you have just dogged the whole time
Either the problem of evil holds, and you have a separate contradiction, or god desires something that isn’t currently the case, and is imperfect and not purely actual
This is just a rehash of what Leibniz debunked
havent made one good point
lol
The way I see it, Blueroad’s maintaining the conversation, you just tag along and lob insults.
I've said the same answer entirely, you have the subjects and metaphysics wrong
It's such a bad argument
Joy wolf is a hindu
You haven’t actually explained how god isn’t existing in its desired circumstances
You just said we don’t follow him and he wants us to follow him freely
Well guess what people aren’t following him freely
God is pure act, God actualized what he desires, he actualized free will
Is this contradictory to you?
So god actualized sin as well then
So you accept the problem of evil
Sin is a privation from act
This is basic stuff my man
I don’t see how that is relevant on an Omni trait god view
Sin is a privation from act, God actualized the possibility of sin if that's what you mean
im not a hindu lol
It's a joke pea brain
Either god is perfectly good, actual, powerful, knowledgeable, etc and things are existing in there best possible state, or god isn’t those things and things aren’t in there best possible state
Red herring