badd dodge

Ok

So god isnt actually existing in its best possible state because the world isn’t existing at it desires

Because we aren’t in accord with its desires

False

Which is its desires

the Lord does not change

The correct phrasing is God desires us to freely follow him

the material world can change, but that does not change the Lord

Ok so go also desires us to freely not follow him?

You’re going down the same path as the first one

lol

No, you just blatantly ignore free will

Either god desires sin(problem of evil) or god wants us to follow him

Philosophy is holistic my bud

God is responsible for free will

Try again

Yes?

So now you have a dilemma

God desires us to follow him freely

you may willingly follow God or not

omg lol

if you dont, then when you die you are reborn anew to retry

this is comedy

only the most worthy may go to him after death

Joy wolf this debate was settled so long ago

settled?

This is funny you guys trying to bring it back

you have just dogged the whole time

Either the problem of evil holds, and you have a separate contradiction, or god desires something that isn’t currently the case, and is imperfect and not purely actual

This is just a rehash of what Leibniz debunked

havent made one good point

lol

@Joywolf i havent even seen you argue, youve just complained and said lol

The way I see it, Blueroad’s maintaining the conversation, you just tag along and lob insults.

I've said the same answer entirely, you have the subjects and metaphysics wrong

@Veraic ive said what blueroad has said, we believe the same thing

It's such a bad argument

Joy wolf is a hindu

You haven’t actually explained how god isn’t existing in its desired circumstances

You just said we don’t follow him and he wants us to follow him freely