Message from @21ooAB

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2019-07-16 01:28:28 UTC  

Raping and eating a child is objectively immoral

2019-07-16 01:28:37 UTC  

I don't care if some cultures do it

2019-07-16 01:28:50 UTC  

Morality isn't objective or subjective

2019-07-16 01:28:50 UTC  

yikes

2019-07-16 01:28:51 UTC  

In response to wiktor, sure cultures hold up universal values, but it depends on the base which influences them. An islamic civilization is very likely to view adultery (since many believe in the four wives) quite differently.There is a reason even in the argument for freedom of religion it only goes so far. Its one thing to sacrifice animals ala Santeria, but polygamy will never be acceptable in a country like the United States.

2019-07-16 01:28:52 UTC  
2019-07-16 01:28:53 UTC  

It all depends

2019-07-16 01:29:01 UTC  
2019-07-16 01:29:05 UTC  

😬

2019-07-16 01:29:16 UTC  

imagine putting religion below politics

2019-07-16 01:29:20 UTC  

Let me rephrase that. Morality can be subjective and objective, depending on the situation

2019-07-16 01:29:34 UTC  

i dont have a religion to put above politics

2019-07-16 01:29:37 UTC  

i mean

2019-07-16 01:29:39 UTC  

below

2019-07-16 01:29:39 UTC  

<:lmao:591182326013100034>

2019-07-16 01:29:41 UTC  

Is it objectively wrong to hit someone you are in a relationship with for no reason?

2019-07-16 01:29:48 UTC  

no

2019-07-16 01:29:56 UTC  

fascism isnt just politics , its a philosiphy

2019-07-16 01:30:00 UTC  

<:scared:591188576859979778>

2019-07-16 01:30:25 UTC  

just like rape isn't objectively wrong

2019-07-16 01:30:32 UTC  

Yes it is

2019-07-16 01:30:40 UTC  

no its not

2019-07-16 01:30:44 UTC  

To me the answer is hitting someone you are in a relationship with is obviously wrong. Then you have cultures which believe as long as you don't bruise the wife, and the kids don't see it it is fine.

2019-07-16 01:30:55 UTC  

I don't care about an unlikely situation where you have to save the world by raping someone

2019-07-16 01:30:56 UTC  

I disagree with said cultures.

2019-07-16 01:31:06 UTC  

rape the system

2019-07-16 01:31:10 UTC  

If your pragmatic and grounded in reality, morality can be objective

2019-07-16 01:31:17 UTC  

Its not always clear cut

2019-07-16 01:31:27 UTC  

Piracy isn't objectively wrong or right.

2019-07-16 01:31:32 UTC  

its wrong by your standards

2019-07-16 01:31:35 UTC  

but like

2019-07-16 01:31:39 UTC  

I don't care

2019-07-16 01:31:39 UTC  

The rape situation sounds a bit like utilitarianism.

2019-07-16 01:31:39 UTC  

not objectively

2019-07-16 01:31:55 UTC  

Objectivity is above standards

2019-07-16 01:32:01 UTC  

Piracy is only wrong from a legal perspective.

2019-07-16 01:32:35 UTC  

Say what you will about theft, but piracy is on a whole other level, and so intertwined with government we hit a gray area.

2019-07-16 01:32:35 UTC  

Is raping a baby and then decapitating it objectively wrong? And by objective I mean, always wrong even if someone doesn't think so

2019-07-16 01:32:46 UTC  

Of course it is

2019-07-16 01:33:10 UTC  

of course it is wrong objectively

2019-07-16 01:33:25 UTC  

Hell if it weren't for pirates the U.S would have had to rely entirely on the damned Frenchmen to create a navy.