Message from @21ooAB

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2019-07-16 01:19:27 UTC  

shut the fuck up boomer niggler

2019-07-16 01:19:45 UTC  

Morality itself cannot be objective. Morality is forged from our perception of what is good and bad. For example, we believe murder, in most cases, is immoral and thus bad. But, another culture could of had it so getting murdered is a great honor for some religious reason or whatnot.

2019-07-16 01:22:17 UTC  

but did it?

2019-07-16 01:22:31 UTC  

is there a culture like that?

2019-07-16 01:22:33 UTC  

I get where you are coming from, but there is one topic that all cultures seem to universally revile (unless you are wealthy), and that happens to be incest. Of course you have loopholes both legally, and culturally, but at the end of the day the base concept is reviled. I am aware thats not an argument for objective morality, but it does hint humans can at least have one thing in common.

2019-07-16 01:23:02 UTC  

there are cultures that promote cannibalism, yes, but the core still has similar moral values

2019-07-16 01:23:13 UTC  

murder is wrong

2019-07-16 01:23:18 UTC  

adultery is wrong

2019-07-16 01:23:24 UTC  

etc

2019-07-16 01:23:25 UTC  

According to who?

2019-07-16 01:23:32 UTC  

Is it wrong objectively?

2019-07-16 01:23:35 UTC  

according to literally every culture

2019-07-16 01:23:37 UTC  

yes

2019-07-16 01:23:54 UTC  

They only promote it up to the point diseases begin to ravage the minds of the participant tribes (i.e Papau New Guinea).

2019-07-16 01:24:19 UTC  

Who is in charge of our definition of what is objective moral or immoral then?

2019-07-16 01:24:28 UTC  

God

2019-07-16 01:25:14 UTC  

"God" is an arbitrary term, and thus cannot be used to define objective truth in reality.

2019-07-16 01:28:17 UTC  

Morality is objective

2019-07-16 01:28:22 UTC  

christianity is incompatible with fascism so i dont believe in a god

2019-07-16 01:28:27 UTC  

<:HellYeah:591182597514723345>

2019-07-16 01:28:28 UTC  

Raping and eating a child is objectively immoral

2019-07-16 01:28:37 UTC  

I don't care if some cultures do it

2019-07-16 01:28:50 UTC  

Morality isn't objective or subjective

2019-07-16 01:28:50 UTC  

yikes

2019-07-16 01:28:51 UTC  

In response to wiktor, sure cultures hold up universal values, but it depends on the base which influences them. An islamic civilization is very likely to view adultery (since many believe in the four wives) quite differently.There is a reason even in the argument for freedom of religion it only goes so far. Its one thing to sacrifice animals ala Santeria, but polygamy will never be acceptable in a country like the United States.

2019-07-16 01:28:52 UTC  
2019-07-16 01:28:53 UTC  

It all depends

2019-07-16 01:29:01 UTC  
2019-07-16 01:29:05 UTC  

😬

2019-07-16 01:29:16 UTC  

imagine putting religion below politics

2019-07-16 01:29:20 UTC  

Let me rephrase that. Morality can be subjective and objective, depending on the situation

2019-07-16 01:29:34 UTC  

i dont have a religion to put above politics

2019-07-16 01:29:37 UTC  

i mean

2019-07-16 01:29:39 UTC  

below

2019-07-16 01:29:39 UTC  

<:lmao:591182326013100034>

2019-07-16 01:29:41 UTC  

Is it objectively wrong to hit someone you are in a relationship with for no reason?

2019-07-16 01:29:48 UTC  

no

2019-07-16 01:29:56 UTC  

fascism isnt just politics , its a philosiphy

2019-07-16 01:30:00 UTC  

<:scared:591188576859979778>

2019-07-16 01:30:25 UTC  

just like rape isn't objectively wrong

2019-07-16 01:30:32 UTC  

Yes it is