Message from @DrRisen

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2019-07-17 22:22:15 UTC  

There was no recall vote on independence

2019-07-17 22:22:31 UTC  

Which for me is arguably more important a matter than Brexit

2019-07-17 22:22:46 UTC  

Also #fake_news @Normal Man

2019-07-17 22:22:54 UTC  

You totally have recall systems in place.

2019-07-17 22:23:04 UTC  

It would help if you read the first paragraph...

2019-07-17 22:23:13 UTC  

Recall of MPs yes.

2019-07-17 22:23:17 UTC  

```The Recall of MPs Act 2015 (c. 25) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that makes provision for constituents to be able to recall their Member of Parliament (MP) and call a by-election```

2019-07-17 22:23:28 UTC  

Yes, so why not a policy too?

2019-07-17 22:23:37 UTC  

What are you so deathly scared of?

2019-07-17 22:23:45 UTC  

It's clearly not a subversion of democracy.

2019-07-17 22:24:08 UTC  

You have it in place for your own representatives for goodness sakes.

2019-07-17 22:24:16 UTC  

Referendums and elections are non-comparable. They are two different systems with different purposes.

2019-07-17 22:24:36 UTC  

Absolutely comparable. One elects a person, the other elects a policy.

2019-07-17 22:24:54 UTC  

One is just more direct in the working of the people on the government than the other.

2019-07-17 22:25:01 UTC  

You're being *very* silly.

2019-07-17 22:26:13 UTC  

We do not have flip flopping referendums like we do on elections, now that would be silly. With referendums we vote and the majority wins, not a difficult concept.

2019-07-17 22:26:27 UTC  

Why would it be so silly?

2019-07-17 22:26:30 UTC  

Two different systems with different purposes.

2019-07-17 22:26:36 UTC  

Non-comparable

2019-07-17 22:26:38 UTC  

With an election the majority wins.

2019-07-17 22:26:41 UTC  

It can flip flop.

2019-07-17 22:26:47 UTC  

Why not for a referendum?

2019-07-17 22:27:32 UTC  

And again. Both public votes, both for public opinion on how the government is to be run, both majority votes.

2019-07-17 22:27:56 UTC  

It's absolutely comparable by those variables at the least. Quit trying to stonewall and headsand.

2019-07-17 22:28:36 UTC  

Yes, I suppose we should just re-call the vote once an opinion polls shows a shift in public opinion. We'd get nothing done with constant referendums, so we vote, accept the result regardless of your since then enact the public's mandate

2019-07-17 22:29:17 UTC  

No no no silly!

2019-07-17 22:29:24 UTC  

Have a recall vote.

2019-07-17 22:29:35 UTC  

IF there is public petition to do so.

2019-07-17 22:29:50 UTC  

If the policy stands, no harm no foul, if it fails, democracy in action.

2019-07-17 22:30:14 UTC  

Democracy is a flawed system

2019-07-17 22:30:20 UTC  

If the majority NO LONGER wants the policy to go through, why stop them from voting against it?

2019-07-17 22:30:26 UTC  

Majority support is irrelevant

2019-07-17 22:30:30 UTC  

That's a violation of democracy,

2019-07-17 22:30:34 UTC  

So?

2019-07-17 22:30:40 UTC  

Democracy is a bad system

2019-07-17 22:30:50 UTC  

@Deleted User Of course it's flawed silly. All systems are flawed.

2019-07-17 22:31:02 UTC  

More flawed than others then @DrRisen

2019-07-17 22:31:22 UTC  

Democracy tends to be the one that garners the most power and strength based on how we stand today.

2019-07-17 22:31:40 UTC  

End of story. Your governmental system got cucked.

2019-07-17 22:32:30 UTC  

Now sit your ass down before democracy calls you a felon and invalidates your vote. <:really:591181753625083905>