China opened their markets wisely

Well capitalism winning is a good thing to Marx

That's a stage in the dialectic

Any attempt to disconnect and isolate leads to North Korea or Soviet Union, the former unless you’re a world power

China, the Soviets, etc understand you can't go to communism or socialism without building capital

Marx couldn't predict modern capitalism

Nobody could

Computers and automation were supposed to end long and hard work, but instead people work harder and work more, after being in more debt from a young age, and being encouraged, especially in the US and W. Europe, to credit credit credit

„Don’t have the money? Put it on the card!“

I’d call the USA more „semi corrupt oligarchy“ than „capitalism“

At least from what I understand of US politics

And european countries are generally more mixed economies that there is genuine multi party system

Marx didn’t know this would happen

I was more talking about effects of neo liberalism on capitalism not technology

And 1929 then 2008 should have been enough a lesson about the whole credit problem

For example

Marx couldn't predict that eventually the bourgeoisie wouldn't be using cultural means and the media/press to keep capitalism alive

Since in the time he wrote das kapital and the manifesto

When workers protested capitalism

It was met by force

^^

That cant happen in post Marx society

To be fair

None of us could have predicted the immense liberal shift in the 1900s

The bourgeoisie understand this

Hence why we have shit like the 80s

A great cultural shift to consumerism and money worship

To distract workers from the flatline and decline of wages

The outsourcing of jobs

The Reagan administration basically legalizing stock buy backs

Longer work hours

I think Marx misunderstands/didn't have a full picture of power dynamics

Consumerism is the problem

I've been saying this forever

You make the people poorer

Marx couldnt predict the future, it's really not his fault that in his lifetime capitalism was backed alot more by force than today

@Eoppa

People who have less stuff are better off

To a point of course

When I say stuff I mean consumer gadgets and designer clothes and such

Eh