Message from @Eoppa
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Marx was fucking based when it came to the right to bare arms
Communism, in the end, is not a single social ideal
It’s an economic and political system
Marx was a direct ideological descendent of Adam Smith and John Locke
Very very cringe
Like capitalism has been so great lol
You can have Great Leap Forward/Great Purge
You can have hardline liberals who want to fight for „justice“
Both claim to act under Marx‘s guidance
The first group is more marxist then the second tbh
Well "the dialectic" isn't exactly a moral compass. It's a power analysis
I agree it is more Marxist
Modern China is trying to use it
Forcibly industrializing a rural country like China and Russia
That is a success of communism
Well I mean to be fair, I don't blame China
Both countries were absolute shitholes before communism
We are in a world where capitalism won
Any attempt to disconnect or isolate yourself from it is useless
China opened their markets wisely
Well capitalism winning is a good thing to Marx
Any attempt to disconnect and isolate leads to North Korea or Soviet Union, the former unless you’re a world power
China, the Soviets, etc understand you can't go to communism or socialism without building capital
Marx couldn't predict modern capitalism
Nobody could
Computers and automation were supposed to end long and hard work, but instead people work harder and work more, after being in more debt from a young age, and being encouraged, especially in the US and W. Europe, to credit credit credit
„Don’t have the money? Put it on the card!“
I’d call the USA more „semi corrupt oligarchy“ than „capitalism“
At least from what I understand of US politics
And european countries are generally more mixed economies that there is genuine multi party system
Marx didn’t know this would happen
I was more talking about effects of neo liberalism on capitalism not technology
And 1929 then 2008 should have been enough a lesson about the whole credit problem
For example
Marx couldn't predict that eventually the bourgeoisie wouldn't be using cultural means and the media/press to keep capitalism alive
Since in the time he wrote das kapital and the manifesto
When workers protested capitalism
It was met by force
^^
That cant happen in post Marx society
To be fair