Sorry

I assumed you meant living standards

No lol

Then I don't think we have much difference - it boils down to how we think is the best way to execute this goal

I promote extreme authoritarianism

And the physical suppression of degenerate thought

inb4 "hurr Durr so u want thought crimes?"

**Yes.** <:Chad:591182354270257170>

Based

East Germany is a very good example of this in terms of the state shifting the culture to promote good virtues. I can't agree with much of what it did, but I can certainly agree with that.

@Siyovaxsh En-sipad-zid-ana

Stronger central governments are destined to oppress and strip the civil liberties of it's people

No government can truly be trusted

But I'd rather have a stronger local government than central

I can't respond right now, but this is based on a faulty enlightenment view of power dynamics that I will address in maybe an hour.

Okie first of all, insecure power centers seek to secure themselves. Ordering society so that the state is in eternal power struggles will only encourage societal instability when these centers of power act out increasingly to secure power. Second of all, if the state is in line with the institutions that support it, it has every incentive to not act out as you say.

@Asdrubal Civil Liberties are not inheritly good

In most cases they lead to further degrading of moral values

Federal government ensures that state governments don't revoke rights of their citizens, lookin at you California you fucking communist state.

This is why federalism is cringe

Imagine not wanting a unitary nation

@Maksim it's not the job of the state to enforce moral values

Yeah it is

And it's not exactly civil liberties that lead to degrading of values but technology

The state is a hierarchy of power meant to enforce the will of the people

That includes moral values.

Not exactly since not everyone has a common moral code

Sure, but a culture and a people have basic moral values that need be protected and promoted against degeneracy

Basic moral values which are commonly agreed on are put into force by the law (no killing, robbing, etc.) but people being a bunch of fags isnt the job of the government to stop

Why not? The only difference here is that you agree with one (killing and robbing being banned) but not agree with another

Especially when considering the fact that homosexuality is only 30 PERCENT genetical, so by allowing fags to not only be open with their homosexuality, but also INFLUENCE OTHERS with their sexuality and ENCOURAGE IT, you will literally destroy your civilization

Ok not my problem fag

The family and individual is more important to me than the state

And killing and robbing infringes on the freedoms of others

That's why everyone that doesnt have a mental illness agrees to make it illegal

Homosexuality is the just the result of technology and excessive freedom

Not alot of people agree with it

But it doesn't exactly infringe on anyone's freedom

The government and state is the reason why degenerative elements have entered our society, not simply due to technology though that is a heavy factor as well.

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

industrial revolution was only bad because it created capitalism

IR was based and anglopilled