Message from @Asdrubal

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2019-10-20 00:50:59 UTC  

Based

2019-10-20 00:52:00 UTC  

East Germany is a very good example of this in terms of the state shifting the culture to promote good virtues. I can't agree with much of what it did, but I can certainly agree with that.

2019-10-20 00:53:44 UTC  
2019-10-20 01:03:31 UTC  

Stronger central governments are destined to oppress and strip the civil liberties of it's people

2019-10-20 01:03:38 UTC  

No government can truly be trusted

2019-10-20 01:04:03 UTC  

But I'd rather have a stronger local government than central

2019-10-20 01:06:45 UTC  

I can't respond right now, but this is based on a faulty enlightenment view of power dynamics that I will address in maybe an hour.

2019-10-20 01:48:54 UTC  

Okie first of all, insecure power centers seek to secure themselves. Ordering society so that the state is in eternal power struggles will only encourage societal instability when these centers of power act out increasingly to secure power. Second of all, if the state is in line with the institutions that support it, it has every incentive to not act out as you say.

2019-10-20 06:53:36 UTC  

@Asdrubal Civil Liberties are not inheritly good

2019-10-20 06:53:50 UTC  

In most cases they lead to further degrading of moral values

2019-10-20 08:00:04 UTC  

Federal government ensures that state governments don't revoke rights of their citizens, lookin at you California you fucking communist state.

2019-10-20 08:03:13 UTC  

This is why federalism is cringe

2019-10-20 08:03:32 UTC  

Imagine not wanting a unitary nation

2019-10-20 12:19:05 UTC  

@Maksim it's not the job of the state to enforce moral values

2019-10-20 12:19:28 UTC  

Yeah it is

2019-10-20 12:19:45 UTC  

And it's not exactly civil liberties that lead to degrading of values but technology

2019-10-20 12:20:27 UTC  

The state is a hierarchy of power meant to enforce the will of the people

2019-10-20 12:20:45 UTC  

That includes moral values.

2019-10-20 12:21:05 UTC  

Not exactly since not everyone has a common moral code

2019-10-20 12:21:39 UTC  

Sure, but a culture and a people have basic moral values that need be protected and promoted against degeneracy

2019-10-20 12:22:30 UTC  

Basic moral values which are commonly agreed on are put into force by the law (no killing, robbing, etc.) but people being a bunch of fags isnt the job of the government to stop

2019-10-20 16:20:52 UTC  

Why not? The only difference here is that you agree with one (killing and robbing being banned) but not agree with another

2019-10-20 16:21:44 UTC  

Especially when considering the fact that homosexuality is only 30 PERCENT genetical, so by allowing fags to not only be open with their homosexuality, but also INFLUENCE OTHERS with their sexuality and ENCOURAGE IT, you will literally destroy your civilization

2019-10-20 16:47:02 UTC  

Ok not my problem fag

2019-10-20 16:47:21 UTC  

The family and individual is more important to me than the state

2019-10-20 16:49:07 UTC  

And killing and robbing infringes on the freedoms of others

2019-10-20 16:49:29 UTC  

That's why everyone that doesnt have a mental illness agrees to make it illegal

2019-10-20 16:49:49 UTC  

Homosexuality is the just the result of technology and excessive freedom

2019-10-20 16:50:15 UTC  

Not alot of people agree with it

2019-10-20 16:50:31 UTC  

But it doesn't exactly infringe on anyone's freedom

2019-10-20 23:15:51 UTC  

The government and state is the reason why degenerative elements have entered our society, not simply due to technology though that is a heavy factor as well.

2019-10-21 02:32:37 UTC  

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588205956039442452/635666724527669289/ea56015-2.png

2019-10-21 02:35:54 UTC  

industrial revolution was only bad because it created capitalism

2019-10-21 10:17:03 UTC  

IR was based and anglopilled

2019-10-21 11:15:24 UTC  

industrial revolution created ever single problem we are currently facing

2019-10-21 11:15:39 UTC  

the destruction of the white race could not happen without it

2019-10-21 11:29:05 UTC  

yeh bro what even is the caliphate?

2019-10-21 11:30:08 UTC  

also im pretty sure that international jewry was literally powered by steam engines

2019-10-21 11:52:10 UTC  

Jewry existed pre industrial revolution

2019-10-21 11:52:34 UTC  

But atleast it was contained and sometimes just outright acted against

2019-10-21 16:55:06 UTC  

@everyone Question Of The Day:

If a United World Union otherwise known as UwU (title work in progress) was formed how would you react? Why?