Message from @Simmons ☧

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2019-09-11 20:24:54 UTC  

Fucking read the channel name

2019-09-11 20:24:57 UTC  

Then read the rules

2019-09-11 20:25:10 UTC  

No insulting towards anything or anyone whatsoever

2019-09-11 20:25:15 UTC  

Ignore or debate

2019-09-11 20:25:33 UTC  

@Simmons ☧ the monarchy

2019-09-11 20:25:38 UTC  

As I mentioned earlier

2019-09-11 20:25:50 UTC  

The monarch should not dabble in "Philosophy"

2019-09-11 20:25:59 UTC  

This leads to belief in human wisdom

2019-09-11 20:26:02 UTC  

Which is fatal

2019-09-11 20:26:12 UTC  

Only divine wisdom is necessary

2019-09-11 20:27:03 UTC  

A lot of Christian theology and our own masterminds like Thomas Aquinas and Augustine were ‘philosophers’.

2019-09-11 20:27:28 UTC  

I refer to biblical text

2019-09-11 20:27:47 UTC  

Proverbs 29:16

2019-09-11 20:27:47 UTC  

**Proverbs 29:16 - Good News Translation (GNT)**

```Dust


<16> When evil people are in power, crime increases. But the righteous will live to see the downfall of such people. ```

2019-09-11 20:27:48 UTC  

Pre-Christian Socrates famously considered himself to be unwise because he considered that ‘he knew nothing’

2019-09-11 20:28:01 UTC  

damn

2019-09-11 20:28:29 UTC  

Catholicism directly supports reason

2019-09-11 20:28:33 UTC  

While criticising people who considered themselves wise for being even less wise for the crime of mistaking themselves wise.

2019-09-11 20:28:36 UTC  

However reason without faith is sin

2019-09-11 20:29:36 UTC  

I refer to Christianity in the broad sense not Catholicism nor did I even mention Catholicism so idk why you're bringing it up but ok

2019-09-11 20:29:56 UTC  

@Eoppa Sorry I didn’t see your message properly, I’ll get to you soon then mate.

2019-09-11 20:30:37 UTC  

Yeah, I don't mean to interrupt I just wanted that out there

2019-09-11 20:32:18 UTC  

@Maksim I’m a Protestant, but I agree with Eoppa, reason in conjunction with faith is important. I also think you’re mistaken in your belief that philosophy makes people believe themselves wise, in accordance with my Socrates example.

2019-09-11 20:32:40 UTC  

Could you expand on your position for me?

2019-09-11 20:33:27 UTC  

I would love to but I have to get to math class

2019-09-11 20:33:38 UTC  

I will respond once this and the next class are out

2019-09-11 20:34:08 UTC  

interesting

2019-09-11 20:37:17 UTC  

That’s cool, take your time

2019-09-11 20:37:48 UTC  

@Simmons ☧ Philosophy still differs from Christian biblical text in a plethora of ways

2019-09-11 20:39:46 UTC  

I’d argue theology itself is a form of philosophy. I still deposit that the phrase “Philosophy is a load of horseshit” is in of itself a philosophical position, albeit a paradoxical one.

2019-09-11 20:40:47 UTC  

@Simmons ☧ Theology is not philosophy

2019-09-11 20:41:55 UTC  

Get to your maths class, it’s more important than me 😂

2019-09-11 20:42:29 UTC  

I’ll still be about when you’re done

2019-09-11 21:27:05 UTC  

lol

2019-09-11 21:43:59 UTC  
2019-09-11 21:44:25 UTC  

Theology is not a form of philosophy - it is completely independent regardless of any similar factors

2019-09-11 23:03:54 UTC  

Doubt

2019-09-11 23:12:37 UTC  

1000 doller

2019-09-11 23:15:04 UTC  

@Maksim you seem to assert that philosophy is different than theology in a plethora of ways, can you provide examples?

2019-09-12 00:02:52 UTC  

@Eoppa Philosophy is human wisdom