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Well I'm American, I guess I can only speak for myself and any atheists I have had direct conversations with, of which the vast majority are also American.

The universe did not come from nothing.

So I have a question for you, I’m just curious

Sure

XD

Is the „Bible Belt“ actually full of protties that act like they’re the most righteous thing on the planet because they pray a certain way

@⍟luminance So If something exists it necessitates that specifically the Abrahamic God created it?

The universe, specifically.

That's a massive assumption on your part, in my opinion

It implies *a* god or gods created it

The only religion that has ample evidence is Christianity.

@Notso sometimes

I’ve read a lot of the Luther bible and it doesn’t seem anything special

Aquinas's fourth way iirc

Not even really in my opinion historians agree Jesus existed and the text from that period and area all align with the bible's claims.

The universe for it to have been created would have needed immeasurable amounts of energy to do

@Notso I would say it's a lot of that and a lot of Boomer religion: "I go to church every Sunday dressed in overalls and a shitty Wal-Mart tee-shirt and I think Jesus is fuckin' cool"

Genesis 1:16 Luther

**Genesis 1:16 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust


<16> God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. ```

No

No one here probably likes boomers

Nothing can create itself

So either the Universe is uncreated, or something created it

We're all basically trash sinners and we all know it and I hope we all resent it but we are weak.

The Bible belt is very white but it also paradoxically is rather low in average IQ.

I've lived in it my whole life

Luckily God is a merciful God.

I would say the average intelligence here is somewhere around 95

*Und Gott machte zwei große Lichter: ein großes Licht, das den Tag regiere, und ein kleines Licht, das die Nacht regiere, dazu auch die Sterne.*
This is the type of thing I mean by mistranslation or misunderstanding

I'm Mensa cardholding BTW

Yeah and we are not even getting into the argument how how and endless void could somehow create matter

This is *not* able to be used to disprove god

>endless void
citation?

We have no idea what came before the Big Bang.

Endless void? I guess nothing would put it better

That's you creating a gap where it needn't be then shoehorning your god into it.

At least the scientific consensus is „nothing“

Is it really?

What does "nothing" mean?

There was an absence of matter