Message from @Notso
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Of course it’s missing books then
@Phil With Frankincense yeah i downloaded the lost books on my phone, i never heard of Maccabees but the name sounds familiar
The cringey Atheism 2.0 shit is what initially got me into doubting my Christian values but the thing that ultimately led me to becoming an atheist was borne of my own internal reflections on faith and morality.
Maccabees is a series of books in the OT
meh
there's either 4 or 2 of them
the millenia old question
Oh okay
I would say that a good 90% of (young) atheists are more of the FACTS AND LOGIC type
of evil is impotence or malevolence
just kept me pondering
Are you talking about American atheists?
Because a lot of Europeans just do not practice, or feel any thought toward religion in particular
It's the Permissive will of God. He would rather we chose Him rather than were forced to choose Him.
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I didn't until recently
The only justifiable argument anyone can make against God is if they attack the very nature of consciousness itself ex. the measurement problem in quantum physics. If you take it that everything is essentially a dream and reality as a whole is not real, sure.
But if you think we all live in the same reality and it's real then it's obvious God exists.
Well I'm American, I guess I can only speak for myself and any atheists I have had direct conversations with, of which the vast majority are also American.
The universe did not come from nothing.
So I have a question for you, I’m just curious
Sure
XD
Is the „Bible Belt“ actually full of protties that act like they’re the most righteous thing on the planet because they pray a certain way
@⍟luminance So If something exists it necessitates that specifically the Abrahamic God created it?
The universe, specifically.
That's a massive assumption on your part, in my opinion
It implies *a* god or gods created it
The only religion that has ample evidence is Christianity.
@Notso sometimes
I’ve read a lot of the Luther bible and it doesn’t seem anything special
Aquinas's fourth way iirc
Not even really in my opinion historians agree Jesus existed and the text from that period and area all align with the bible's claims.
The universe for it to have been created would have needed immeasurable amounts of energy to do
@Notso I would say it's a lot of that and a lot of Boomer religion: "I go to church every Sunday dressed in overalls and a shitty Wal-Mart tee-shirt and I think Jesus is fuckin' cool"
Genesis 1:16 Luther
**Genesis 1:16 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<16> God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. ```
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