Monogamy is a must

i do not think me having sex right now is going to make me shoot heroin in the future

monogamy existed before marriage

It was essentially proto-marriage

no its a form of human organization

Dedicating your love to only one person, marriage then solidified that for life

marriage is superstructural reflection on the nature of the base - of the landed classes with property and estates who didn't want to lose them

marriage heals fractured relations with other aristocratic lines and perpetuates them

a social construct utilizing a form of human organization

monogamy does not mean no premarital sex

How is premarital sex of any benefit

it is to the benefit of a budding relationship

More premarital sex leads to less happiness, this is statistical fact which in turns means less productive output in their labor

statistical fact is an oxymoron and i dont believe that either way

Premarital sex is not necessary nor of major benefit to cohesion of a couple

sex is a major benefit to the cohesion of a couple

it releases happy hormones and bonding hormones

there are much more important factors relating to output

More so the most influential factors of a stable relationship is a common interest and set of ideals

sex is integral to a relationship anon

the is always a physical side to these romantic ideals

No, it is a beneficial when used on top of a stable relationship

A relationship with sex as the main cohesion force will fail every time

a relationship will not remain stable if you take away the sex

both sides need it and it bolsters the relationship

and it's kinda the only way to perpetuate

Likewise, a relationship will not remain stable if there is no common set of ideals or intrests

i dont disagree

but that wasnt the point

a relationship with common ideals and interests + sex is going to be the same as it will be when you put on tungsten wedding bands and say a few magic sky daddy words at a ceremony

It makes it much harder to split away once you've committed ceremonially. With premarital one may simply.. leave, while with marriage one must go thru a divorce with proper reasoning for a split

Ceremonial, yes, but still useful for society.

and that is entirely litigation, not out of effects

Anyways good convo we'll continue later I must eat

ill end it off with my first quote "sex is integral to relational bonding and sexual irresponsibility manifests itself in quite severe ways"

Ouch oof ow

gay and lol pilled

If only Hitler came back.

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