Message from @el pebble
Discord ID: 603409327973335051
an important one
This does not mean it is inheritly bad, rather the opposite is true as it is good.
it means it there is no dialectical reasoning for why sex before it would have an efffect on society
youre better off seeing why marriage is around in the first place
Because it means people will find it more accepting to go and do much more socially determinatal actions.
Monogamy is a must
i do not think me having sex right now is going to make me shoot heroin in the future
monogamy existed before marriage
It was essentially proto-marriage
no its a form of human organization
Dedicating your love to only one person, marriage then solidified that for life
marriage is superstructural reflection on the nature of the base - of the landed classes with property and estates who didn't want to lose them
marriage heals fractured relations with other aristocratic lines and perpetuates them
a social construct utilizing a form of human organization
monogamy does not mean no premarital sex
How is premarital sex of any benefit
it is to the benefit of a budding relationship
More premarital sex leads to less happiness, this is statistical fact which in turns means less productive output in their labor
statistical fact is an oxymoron and i dont believe that either way
Premarital sex is not necessary nor of major benefit to cohesion of a couple
it releases happy hormones and bonding hormones
there are much more important factors relating to output
More so the most influential factors of a stable relationship is a common interest and set of ideals
sex is integral to a relationship anon
the is always a physical side to these romantic ideals
No, it is a beneficial when used on top of a stable relationship
A relationship with sex as the main cohesion force will fail every time
a relationship will not remain stable if you take away the sex
both sides need it and it bolsters the relationship
and it's kinda the only way to perpetuate
Likewise, a relationship will not remain stable if there is no common set of ideals or intrests
i dont disagree
but that wasnt the point
a relationship with common ideals and interests + sex is going to be the same as it will be when you put on tungsten wedding bands and say a few magic sky daddy words at a ceremony
It makes it much harder to split away once you've committed ceremonially. With premarital one may simply.. leave, while with marriage one must go thru a divorce with proper reasoning for a split
Ceremonial, yes, but still useful for society.
and that is entirely litigation, not out of effects
Anyways good convo we'll continue later I must eat
ill end it off with my first quote "sex is integral to relational bonding and sexual irresponsibility manifests itself in quite severe ways"
Ouch oof ow