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2019-08-15 22:47:20 UTC  

again
genetic mesh

2019-08-15 22:47:41 UTC  

Im looking that up because genetics are not my strong suit

2019-08-15 22:47:44 UTC  

and i can't find anything about it

2019-08-15 22:48:02 UTC  

what the hell are you talking about

2019-08-15 22:49:13 UTC  

the same genes that made you believe things in one environment can react differently in another environment
different genes interact differently with different environments

2019-08-15 22:49:44 UTC  

ok do you have any evidence that this can affect ones religion?

2019-08-15 22:49:56 UTC  

becuase this really doesnt seem to be the case at all

2019-08-15 22:51:08 UTC  

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/12/09/study-on-twins-suggests-our-political-beliefs-may-be-hard-wired/
there are no studies on exact religious belief
however political beliefs tend to correlate heavily eg abortion and christianity

2019-08-15 22:52:14 UTC  

https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/psp806845.pdf
ill just link some stuff
apologies if any links are borked

2019-08-15 22:55:10 UTC  

do you want the gene cluster race studies etc?

2019-08-15 22:55:33 UTC  

gimmi like 30 min - an hour

2019-08-15 22:55:39 UTC  

>our political beliefs may be hard-wired
>topic of the conversation is religion

2019-08-15 22:55:42 UTC  

ok this is epic

2019-08-15 22:55:43 UTC  

My father needs me to help him

2019-08-15 22:55:51 UTC  

there is significant overlap

2019-08-15 22:55:54 UTC  
2019-08-15 22:56:18 UTC  

there are no studies on specific religion that i know of

2019-08-15 22:58:04 UTC  

however we can assume that high heritability on things such as
feminism, gay rights, immigration etc will correlate heavily with religion

2019-08-15 23:02:29 UTC  

no we can't

2019-08-15 23:02:34 UTC  

that is still an illogical jump

2019-08-15 23:02:45 UTC  

there are people of the same religion who have wildly different political views

2019-08-15 23:02:54 UTC  

there are left-christians and right-christians

2019-08-15 23:03:14 UTC  

both on the opposite side of the political spectrum but still of the same religion

2019-08-15 23:04:44 UTC  

"there are no studies on specific religion that i know of"

so you admit that you're grasping at straws and you don't have an argument

2019-08-15 23:04:45 UTC  

ok then

2019-08-15 23:07:00 UTC  

regardless
we can see that race and beliefs are tied which was more of my main point

2019-08-15 23:08:17 UTC  

yes im sure that there are such a high number of abortion supporting catholics and muslims running around

2019-08-15 23:08:42 UTC  

race and belief are linked?

2019-08-15 23:09:10 UTC  

beliefs are heritable
races exist

2019-08-15 23:12:39 UTC  

its not unreasonable to assume that since many other beliefs are heritable that others can or will also be heritable

2019-08-15 23:14:38 UTC  

can you give an example of a heritable belief?

2019-08-15 23:16:03 UTC  

read the above studies on heritability of political beliefs

2019-08-15 23:17:04 UTC  

but here is a list of psychometric traits that are heritable and can predict beliefs from bouchard

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/611699916611256320/PHgL9Gw.png

2019-08-15 23:18:56 UTC  

"we can see that race and beliefs are tied which was more of my main point"
No, your "main point" was specifically the co-relation between race and religion, you stated as much.

2019-08-15 23:19:01 UTC  

Anyone can scroll up and see it.

2019-08-15 23:19:22 UTC  

Just admit you were wrong and carry on. There's no need to pretend as if you were arguing something else all along.

2019-08-15 23:23:33 UTC  

races exist
beliefs are heritable
psychometric traits are heritable
psychometric traits predict beliefs
it is not unreasonable to assume heritability of religious beliefs since we can see significant heritability's in other types of beliefs especially when there is overlap
this is my point

2019-08-15 23:24:27 UTC  
2019-08-15 23:25:36 UTC  

Except there is not overlap because as I've previously pointed out people of the same religion often times have wildly varying political beliefs.