Message from @PunishedMuskovy

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2019-01-26 01:27:46 UTC  

Rome was not really culturally nationalist, most areas of the empire were nominally subservient to the Roman pantheon (the requirement for being under Roman protection) while it was the landed gentry who maintained control over people who couldn't care less because the only thing they ever knew was tribal allegiances.

2019-01-26 01:28:07 UTC  

Yes, you admitted to your mistake though, which makes it weird

2019-01-26 01:28:48 UTC  

And America for better or for worse is massively protestant.

2019-01-26 01:29:16 UTC  

Not even massively and definitely for the worst.

2019-01-26 01:30:53 UTC  

Lol right that's why protestant evangelicals hold so much political power.

2019-01-26 01:31:50 UTC  

@Melissa Karlee why civnat? why not cultural nat?

2019-01-26 01:32:43 UTC  

@PunishedMuskovy pi don't see a difference

2019-01-26 01:32:50 UTC  

Massively would have to mean overwhelming at least, and for sure Protestantism is not in the mainstream. It's not a popular political talking point and it has next to no cultural significance outside of the American southwest.

2019-01-26 01:33:02 UTC  

East, I mean.

2019-01-26 01:33:06 UTC  

Plus even with a "unifying culture" Rome still had problems with being Multi-Ethnic, the Crisis of the 3rd Century shows that.
Where (due to various factors) Rome fractured into 3 parts.
Rome Proper (Italian Peninsula, Iberia, Balkans)
Gallic Rome (current day England and Wales, as well as France and the Benelux region)
And the Palmyrene Empire (Mesopotamia and Egypt)

2019-01-26 01:33:17 UTC  

Civic Nationalism is basically "act in favor of america"

2019-01-26 01:33:25 UTC  

while cultural nationalism is "act american"

2019-01-26 01:33:38 UTC  

ethno nat america is just not viable whatsoever

2019-01-26 01:34:32 UTC  

It wouldn't even technically be Ethno Nationalist, but rather Racial Nationalist.
And the only way that'll happen is with Balkanization

2019-01-26 01:34:46 UTC  

ye

2019-01-26 01:34:47 UTC  

Ethno-nationalism isn't an option for the US, to think so is myopic beyond measure.

2019-01-26 01:34:59 UTC  

2019-01-26 01:35:02 UTC  

yea culturalnat is the best way for America

2019-01-26 01:35:07 UTC  

for Europe? def EthnoNat

2019-01-26 01:35:20 UTC  

and no not some "united europe"

2019-01-26 01:35:21 UTC  

fuck that

2019-01-26 01:35:29 UTC  

keep france french keep germany german etc

2019-01-26 01:35:40 UTC  

>keep france french

2019-01-26 01:35:41 UTC  

wew lad

2019-01-26 01:35:45 UTC  

you're asking too much

2019-01-26 01:36:05 UTC  

Minus Russia. Russia and the United States have more in common than either would be willing to admit imo.

2019-01-26 01:36:14 UTC  

Welcome @Champion
Go to <#507040923884978176> in order to get roles
Apart from that act in accordance to the rules and you'll be fine

2019-01-26 01:36:21 UTC  

America shouldn't have a way forward as a United body, it just won't end well long term.

2019-01-26 01:37:20 UTC  

You can't enforce a culture, it must spread on it's own by effort of it's people and it's higher castes.

2019-01-26 01:37:48 UTC  

And the only thing the *high* castes do, celebrities in this case, is promote a degenerate culture

2019-01-26 01:38:12 UTC  

@Melissa Karlee what does russia have in common?

2019-01-26 01:38:14 UTC  

I mean the Russian Federation has definite ethnic boundaries within the state
Ethnic Russian areas are Ethnically Russian (apart from big cities)
Ethnic Turco-Mongolic areas are Ethnically Turco-Mongolic
Ethnic Caucasian areas being Ethnically Caucasian, etc

2019-01-26 01:38:22 UTC  

only minorities for russia i can think of is the altaics

2019-01-26 01:38:27 UTC  

which are already russianized

2019-01-26 01:39:46 UTC  

I suppose they really drove the Tatar Yoke back to the Urals

2019-01-26 01:39:48 UTC  

ꚹꚷꚵꚷꚶꚴꚱꚰ ꚹꚷꚸꚴꚱ꛴ ꚳꚱꚰ꛷ꚲ

2019-01-26 01:39:56 UTC  

i dont speak square

2019-01-26 01:40:01 UTC  

Same

2019-01-26 01:40:53 UTC  

I'm more of a Non Euclidean guy myself

2019-01-26 01:42:49 UTC  

ꚸꚵꚸ ( I agree)

2019-01-26 01:45:15 UTC  

@PunishedMuskovy that Russia and the US are both ethnic melting pots