@Melissa Karlee why civnat? why not cultural nat?

@PunishedMuskovy pi don't see a difference

Massively would have to mean overwhelming at least, and for sure Protestantism is not in the mainstream. It's not a popular political talking point and it has next to no cultural significance outside of the American southwest.

East, I mean.

Plus even with a "unifying culture" Rome still had problems with being Multi-Ethnic, the Crisis of the 3rd Century shows that.
Where (due to various factors) Rome fractured into 3 parts.
Rome Proper (Italian Peninsula, Iberia, Balkans)
Gallic Rome (current day England and Wales, as well as France and the Benelux region)
And the Palmyrene Empire (Mesopotamia and Egypt)

Civic Nationalism is basically "act in favor of america"

while cultural nationalism is "act american"

ethno nat america is just not viable whatsoever

It wouldn't even technically be Ethno Nationalist, but rather Racial Nationalist.
And the only way that'll happen is with Balkanization

ye

Ethno-nationalism isn't an option for the US, to think so is myopic beyond measure.

yea culturalnat is the best way for America

for Europe? def EthnoNat

and no not some "united europe"

fuck that

keep france french keep germany german etc

>keep france french

wew lad

you're asking too much

Minus Russia. Russia and the United States have more in common than either would be willing to admit imo.

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America shouldn't have a way forward as a United body, it just won't end well long term.

You can't enforce a culture, it must spread on it's own by effort of it's people and it's higher castes.

And the only thing the *high* castes do, celebrities in this case, is promote a degenerate culture

@Melissa Karlee what does russia have in common?

I mean the Russian Federation has definite ethnic boundaries within the state
Ethnic Russian areas are Ethnically Russian (apart from big cities)
Ethnic Turco-Mongolic areas are Ethnically Turco-Mongolic
Ethnic Caucasian areas being Ethnically Caucasian, etc

only minorities for russia i can think of is the altaics

which are already russianized

I suppose they really drove the Tatar Yoke back to the Urals

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i dont speak square

Same

I'm more of a Non Euclidean guy myself

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@PunishedMuskovy that Russia and the US are both ethnic melting pots

@PunishedMuskovy
I mean the Turco-Mongols (Altaics being among those) isn't the only prominent minority group within the Russian Federation
There are the Caucasians as i mentioned And by Caucasians i mean people native to the Caucasus (Georgians, Chechens, Ingush, Avar, Circassians, Abkhaz, etc)
Apart from those two i can't think of any other groups that constitute large populations within the RF

though on one hand, USSR went and forced the turks (actual turks not ottomans) to be russian

in the us, the mexicans and nigs on a large scale cling to their culture despite the mexicans abandoning its homeland

Both protestant both highly nationalist both formed from revolution etc

>russia