Message from @The Big Oof

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2019-02-01 13:14:06 UTC  

time flies fast

2019-02-01 13:18:48 UTC  

2019-02-01 14:09:33 UTC  

How possible will it be for PRC to dissolve like the Soviet Union did? And if so, what would be the consequences for that huge disruption the balance of power?

2019-02-01 14:13:21 UTC  

@Spookaswa except we don’t have capitalism

2019-02-01 14:13:26 UTC  

We have a mixed economy

2019-02-01 14:13:36 UTC  

And these very recessions are caused by the socialist policies in place

2019-02-01 14:13:47 UTC  

For example the FED, central banks create boom and bust cycles

2019-02-01 14:14:01 UTC  

Let's agree to disagree.

2019-02-01 14:14:06 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Name the socialist thinker who said market interventionism is socialism

2019-02-01 14:14:33 UTC  

I don’t need to, socialism actively tries to abolish the market forces

2019-02-01 14:14:37 UTC  

Historically, it was about the worker managing the means of production, with the state often being seen as a means to achieve this end

2019-02-01 14:14:39 UTC  

To abolish the market

2019-02-01 14:14:48 UTC  

Not all socialists want to abolish the market

2019-02-01 14:14:50 UTC  

Correct and that’s why any market intervention is strictly socialist

2019-02-01 14:14:54 UTC  

That’s the goal of socialism

2019-02-01 14:14:55 UTC  

it is, just at it's core, what I described above

2019-02-01 14:14:58 UTC  

Does not follow

2019-02-01 14:15:27 UTC  

"The state is seen as a means to bring about collective ownership"
"Any market intervention is strictly socialist"

2019-02-01 14:15:33 UTC  

Not all socialists , but socialism itself does, that’s the goal of it. It’s why every market intervention is socialist

2019-02-01 14:15:34 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-01 14:15:52 UTC  

Tax, regulations, tarrifs, price controls . Subsidies you name it

2019-02-01 14:15:59 UTC  

A brief history of socialism

2019-02-01 14:16:03 UTC  

It was never about market intervention

2019-02-01 14:16:08 UTC  

Yes it was

2019-02-01 14:16:15 UTC  

It was always about abolishing the market aswell

2019-02-01 14:16:17 UTC  

Okay, so name the socialist who said it was.

2019-02-01 14:16:25 UTC  

I want a name.

2019-02-01 14:16:27 UTC  

As you said a transition between capitalism to communism

2019-02-01 14:16:35 UTC  

Wrong

2019-02-01 14:16:38 UTC  

Marx, as he said communism was a marktless society

2019-02-01 14:16:45 UTC  

So you were wrong ?

2019-02-01 14:16:50 UTC  

No, you're wrong

2019-02-01 14:17:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/540898392419598346/image0.png

2019-02-01 14:17:06 UTC  

I said Marxist-Leninism sees socialism as the transition from capitalism to communism, aka, the USSR

2019-02-01 14:17:09 UTC  

Good

2019-02-01 14:17:19 UTC  

Thanks for proving the above

2019-02-01 14:17:30 UTC  

USA? More like USSR.

2019-02-01 14:17:36 UTC  

I see no difference.

2019-02-01 14:17:40 UTC  

What socialists don’t want to abolish the market ?

2019-02-01 14:17:43 UTC  

Or restrict it