Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-02-01 14:13:36 UTC  

And these very recessions are caused by the socialist policies in place

2019-02-01 14:13:47 UTC  

For example the FED, central banks create boom and bust cycles

2019-02-01 14:14:01 UTC  

Let's agree to disagree.

2019-02-01 14:14:06 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Name the socialist thinker who said market interventionism is socialism

2019-02-01 14:14:33 UTC  

I don’t need to, socialism actively tries to abolish the market forces

2019-02-01 14:14:37 UTC  

Historically, it was about the worker managing the means of production, with the state often being seen as a means to achieve this end

2019-02-01 14:14:39 UTC  

To abolish the market

2019-02-01 14:14:48 UTC  

Not all socialists want to abolish the market

2019-02-01 14:14:50 UTC  

Correct and that’s why any market intervention is strictly socialist

2019-02-01 14:14:54 UTC  

That’s the goal of socialism

2019-02-01 14:14:55 UTC  

it is, just at it's core, what I described above

2019-02-01 14:14:58 UTC  

Does not follow

2019-02-01 14:15:27 UTC  

"The state is seen as a means to bring about collective ownership"
"Any market intervention is strictly socialist"

2019-02-01 14:15:33 UTC  

Not all socialists , but socialism itself does, that’s the goal of it. It’s why every market intervention is socialist

2019-02-01 14:15:34 UTC  

Yes

2019-02-01 14:15:52 UTC  

Tax, regulations, tarrifs, price controls . Subsidies you name it

2019-02-01 14:15:59 UTC  

A brief history of socialism

2019-02-01 14:16:03 UTC  

It was never about market intervention

2019-02-01 14:16:08 UTC  

Yes it was

2019-02-01 14:16:15 UTC  

It was always about abolishing the market aswell

2019-02-01 14:16:17 UTC  

Okay, so name the socialist who said it was.

2019-02-01 14:16:25 UTC  

I want a name.

2019-02-01 14:16:27 UTC  

As you said a transition between capitalism to communism

2019-02-01 14:16:35 UTC  

Wrong

2019-02-01 14:16:38 UTC  

Marx, as he said communism was a marktless society

2019-02-01 14:16:45 UTC  

So you were wrong ?

2019-02-01 14:16:50 UTC  

No, you're wrong

2019-02-01 14:17:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/540898392419598346/image0.png

2019-02-01 14:17:06 UTC  

I said Marxist-Leninism sees socialism as the transition from capitalism to communism, aka, the USSR

2019-02-01 14:17:09 UTC  

Good

2019-02-01 14:17:19 UTC  

Thanks for proving the above

2019-02-01 14:17:30 UTC  

USA? More like USSR.

2019-02-01 14:17:36 UTC  

I see no difference.

2019-02-01 14:17:40 UTC  

What socialists don’t want to abolish the market ?

2019-02-01 14:17:43 UTC  

Or restrict it

2019-02-01 14:17:44 UTC  

Market socialists....

2019-02-01 14:17:54 UTC  

Define market socialist

2019-02-01 14:18:19 UTC  

It's...it's not that hard to understand

2019-02-01 14:18:23 UTC  

it's literally in the name