Message from @VenusFröst

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2017-08-07 22:01:23 UTC  

I'm looking around for relevant statutes on lawfully CC'ing compounded with that statute above "Failure to Disperse...etc"

2017-08-07 22:02:38 UTC  

If we lose the permit, you probably shouldn't have a firearm

2017-08-07 22:02:42 UTC  

IANAL, but once you commit a crime you're no longer lawfully CCing.

2017-08-07 22:03:12 UTC  

And at that point it just becomes posession of a firearm whilst in the comission of a crime.

2017-08-07 22:03:57 UTC  

I won't be carrying if we don't have a permit, because that opens the door to a misdemeanor which can be elevated to a felony if I'm carrying. I won't tell anybody else what to do.

2017-08-07 22:09:41 UTC  
2017-08-07 22:10:17 UTC  

10 years for carrying, even if you are legally, and are declared part of an unlawful assembly that gets categorized as a riot or mob.

2017-08-07 22:10:55 UTC  

Which is a very real possibility if we are told to disperse and/or a melee breaks out.

2017-08-07 22:11:25 UTC  

"In most cases, every member of the group is responsible for any crimes committed by any other member of the group."

2017-08-07 22:12:26 UTC  

your class 4 misdeamor will turn into a felony if you're carrying

2017-08-07 22:12:36 UTC  

That's the gist of it

2017-08-07 22:17:01 UTC  

Basically if you're gonna carry, have a good attorney.

2017-08-07 23:09:40 UTC  

Basically don't carry.

2017-08-07 23:15:46 UTC  

Is a baseball helmet no cage against the face covering law?

2017-08-07 23:16:50 UTC  

It doesn't have anything covering your face, and it's just a helmet?

2017-08-07 23:30:19 UTC  

Are helmets under the same boat as body armor @V I T A L I T Y ?

2017-08-07 23:30:41 UTC  

I have no idea. I am not a lawyer and don't want to hand out legal advice lol.

2017-08-07 23:30:57 UTC  

Helmets /should/ be fine. Ballistic armor, not so much.

2017-08-07 23:31:15 UTC  

As far as a helmet that has no face coverings, I don't see how that would bring the face covering law into question... since there is no face covering.

2017-08-08 03:16:22 UTC  

Hmmm

2017-08-08 03:16:23 UTC  

Okay

2017-08-08 03:16:38 UTC  

I'll be on the side of caution then.

2017-08-08 03:16:47 UTC  

I just dont want to get a head injury.

2017-08-08 03:17:38 UTC  

You won't get in trouble for a helmet.

2017-08-08 03:18:07 UTC  

TBH if we don't get the permit reinstated I would rethink coming altogether (we have a Wheatfield Dweller thing being organized away from the rally), but if you do end up coming, a helmet is the bare minimum I'd advise.

2017-08-08 03:18:44 UTC  

Definitely one without a face cage. Aside from the legal question, it gives people something to grab on to, and getting facemasked will fuck your neck up.

2017-08-08 04:33:12 UTC  

Whats the laws in virginia about keeping guns in your car. i.e. a handgun in the glovebox?

2017-08-08 04:52:29 UTC  

with the changing elements of recent events, I see myself leaving the CCW at home but joining with a knife and/or baton. anyone have a source on them?

2017-08-08 05:12:54 UTC  

Most pocket knives legal? I think theres a pin about it

2017-08-08 05:14:08 UTC  

Scratch that, i dont think there is,

2017-08-08 05:21:12 UTC  

What situation will you be in where you should use a knife but not a gun?

2017-08-08 13:34:20 UTC  

Swashbuckling.

2017-08-08 13:36:15 UTC  

Cutting boxes and rope and stuff?

2017-08-08 13:37:14 UTC  

Needing deadly force while in a crowd. Hypothetically speaking.

2017-08-08 13:37:57 UTC  

@Hand Banana I generally prefer to use a knife when I prepare food

2017-08-08 13:38:20 UTC  

to make sure to pass that stealth mission without setting off any alarms...

2017-08-08 13:38:35 UTC  

If you don't use a gun to dice up your veggies you're a faggot.

2017-08-08 13:38:51 UTC  

Fyi

2017-08-08 13:39:03 UTC  

God damnit, Leah!! Way to ruin my troll. 😉

2017-08-08 13:39:27 UTC  

@Leah - VA that gsr gives it a great smokey taste too