I am not a modernist then

@RealBullWhip TL;DR

genes are very accurate in diagnosing what is eugenic and what is dysgenic

for nature what is good is eugenic

Nah, that's not the definition of modernism

what is bad is dysgenic

that is the only thing that exists in reality

Modernism differs depending on the area of study you are talking about.

I think all concepts should be consistent with science. If science disproves your argument, you need a new one

Using it as a generality is not effective.

except science today is a joke

that rejects basic evolutionary biology

breeds of dog can differ in intelligence but human tribes cannot

they're just as much ideologues as other groups

Science is only as good as the scientist. Science ™ is a joke yes

empiricists do this as well

they try to abstract things so far

that you have millions or infinite factors

such as with intelligence

they include infinite factors and say "see you can't prove racial intelligence difference!"

If we go with what fury is talking about. Then this kind of modernism is defined by the belief that we can understand the world through pure rationality. That we can work from the purely material to the modern construction of society

well yes when you include infinite elements in a set I cannot define all the elements let alone show a relation with another set

You are just mistaking dogma for science

btw discrete maths should be the basic maths taught in schools

Science is just making provable theories

and testing them

but that's just a tangent

No that IS science

yes

predictive validity is science boiled down to its most basic part

I'm saying that modern scientists will force you to prove a relation between a set with infinite elements and another set

which is impossible

even if I show you a relation between race and IQ

well that obviously wouldn't be very predictive

and then control for income

and then control for schooling

there's always "racism lowered their IQ dude"

"brutalism bro"

it will never end you see

that's why you can't talk to these people

Brutalism is 10/10