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On my new account now

Who’s voting for Hillary

no one

Me

just kidding

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@CronoSaturn Well.. in the context of this discussion, I am particularly interested in natural human psychology... and evolutionary psychology deals with the issue so it can be quite well defined.
Well... by that I mean diseases like Parkinson, Altzheimer, allergies etc. So in other words a disease as understood by an average normie.

what would you say if i said this would you believe me

monarchs protect you democracies exploit you

would you believe me

Correct

God save the Czar

i have an entire reason why im a nationalist monarchist so much i won't waste my time typing it

which is why im in debate voice chat

Well I would agree with you so you’ll have to find another dude

best of all tho

stability

@Aki Right but evolution is dynamic and so evolutionary psychology is descriptive not predictive. Our environment is no longer the savanna but increasingly engineered and so expecting the same psychology to serve each would be strange. Evolutionary psychology also doesn’t deal with individual well being, only the long term statistical success of differing strategies. Rape here would be considered a high risk but valid strategy, as would cuckoldry and infanticide. Typically Parkinson’s, altzheimer’s, allergies etc is not understood in evolutionary terms but through the principle of harm. This is why we consider sickle cell anaemia a disease despite its ability to sustain populations more sustainably in malaria prone areas. None of this, however is psychology

lol how is cuckoldry a strategy

Game theory is typically the mathematical frame used to analyse actions in not only evolution but in pretty much any value optimising scenario with other actors. In that frame a strategy is defined as a set of actions which are based not only on that actors decisions but also the decisions of others. If you can cuck someone and they decide to raise your kid for whatever reason, you receive an evolutionary payoff in that you have passed on your genes, the child is cared for and you have no outlay to support that, allowing you to devote them to passing on your genes, getting further payoffs

@CronoSaturn Well... if you think that the environment we live in doesn't suit our nature, then maybe there is something wrong with the environment that needs correction... no? ~ Evolutionary psychology doesn't deal with the individual well being but it deals with the psychological roots of morality, for example and measures the current state of the human condition... and that alone should be enough to establish a set of principles.

The principle of harm is not a very good way to define a disease because it allows a huge leeway... but I don't think there is a good way to define it so that is why I said "as understood by a normie". Regardless... this line of conversation is not really related to the first paragraph.

@CronoSaturn oh, sure cucking somebody is a strategy, but when you said cuckoldry I was thinking of the cuck, who doesn't have a strategy here lol

@snakeeater depends. Some tournament mating systems see pretty stable systems of cuckoldry emerge as the cucker draws in more females, giving the cuckee higher access then they would otherwise have. This would be less common in humans as we *tend* not to operate at those kinds of scales but it would still be valid, even knowing your being cucked, where the higher access to females overcomes the increased outlay.
if the cukee was unaware its a case of asymmetric information in which case it makes sense to take no action where the risk of acting poorly is higher then the risk of outlaying resources innapropriately