You realise Greece fell to another broadly Hellenistic republic, yeah?

And that many of the Greek states were never democratic in the slightest?

Greece had a full on actual democracy and because the 51% could do whatever the masses voted like idiots and destroyed it

>greece fell when it became part of a multicultural state

how strange

They never had anything resembling universal suffrage

we should be like sparta

change my mind

slavery isn't really a viable economic decision

gay

No u

it's also an industry dominated by hebrews

but I do agree with most of spartan health and fitness mandates 👍

Spartans were gay

>spartans we are gay

Eugenics, only the strong can lead and national unity through brotherhood? sign me up

spartans were indeed gay tho

as were most pagan societies prior to christianization

@Cyboman I was quoting the Athenians

the athenians were also gay

i guess it took one to know one even back then 🤷

@Shiba Inu are you saying they weren't gay?

@Friend of Greatest Ally you call a property and social rank requirement, exclusion of women and a bunch of other filters proper democracy? And this is only Athens mind.

Really unsure where the fuck the multicultural claims your making here are coming from at all, @Cyboman . I don’t think you do either

@CronoSaturn the hellenic era was one of multiculturalism

and ying, you know greece fell about 6-7 times right? there wasn't just one fall.

women are property

Which Greece? What greek state?

Like you realise Greece wasn’t the modern nation state it is today? Athens and Sparta continually went to war and allied with entities not on the Greek peninsula to do so

ancient Greece of 500BCE

Yep

So which state

Because there wasn’t a single Ancient Greece

they were a loose collective of states

Not even that most of the time. Retrospectively we group them together, they often didn’t see themselves in the same group

they all identified as greeks and was similar to the old American Confederacy before the constitution

Sometimes they identified as Persian, actually

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

no

they allied with Persians sometimes but did not identify as them

greece is going to hell and america is too

Yeah, in what way did "Greece" fall?