Message from @ManWithTheHand
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I guess they're no longer oathcucks then
We have stronger leadership and more defined goals than any alt-lite movement and that's a huge factor
The alt right will be much more effective in a larger coalition imo
I don't think it's wise to be hostile to the alt lite and demand everyone endorse white nationalism
The alt right sorta overplayed their hand when the media gaslit them into thinking they're much bigger and more powerful than they are. Now the alliances they forged are breaking down.
Is white nationalism not the entire point of this movement?
It is but you're not going to get anywhere with your current strategy
But I'm talking to a guy with a swastika avi
Not my strategy
really what strategy are you refering to?
I have to agree with @amnat here
I mean showing up to alt lite events and demanding people endorse white nationalism
The biggest difference between the right and left right now is that the Right refuses to work with "idealogically impure" groups while the left adopts a big tent strategy much to their advantage
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So you want to use minorities to progress our movement?
Literally no one said that
Arguments in bad faith and using strawmen just make you look like an asshole
If you're unwilling to work with people who aren't 100% in step with us you're more picky than the literal NSDAP
I never said I wasn't willing to work with ppl that are not 100 in step with us. I don't see why we shouldn't absorb alt light ppl. But the main issue is we are making all the compromises here. Why so we have to throw everything we stand for aside while dealing with "Idealogically Impure" groups? They need to meet us at the very LEAST halfway. And I don't think asking alt light ppl to endorse white nationalism is too much to ask for.
Endorsing WN isn't meeting you halfway. That's basically all the alt right is.
@ManWithTheHand We don't need to get the cucks to endorse WN per se, I think halfway would be getting them to openly acknowledge the anti-White nanture of things. That way they can claim that they don't agree with us while redpilling their fellow normies.
Even based chopstick man has done a couple of tweets to that effect.
Literally them willing to come to one of our events and stand with us is meeting us halfway
True.
Last year you wouldnt have an event with Enoch and Spencer and Heimbach at the same place
We put our own house (mostly) in order, and the fact that you have these other groups coming to stand with us speaks volumes about their tacit willingness to endorse WN without saying it directly
tl;dr quit being a sperg and accept the need for cross-group solidarity
Our public discourse should be kept focused on our shared enemies. As far as antifa are concerned, Proud Boys, normies, and us are all the same. All we need to do is point out the anti-White hatred of the left. Seeing that fact play out IRL will redpill more of our people than anything else.
I wasnt redpilled by some guy demanding that I be a white nationalist if I wanted to hang out with him
It was through a friend showing me the anti-whtie bias of the left and explaining how it was created etc.
It's better to build actual friendships within the alt-lite and use those to help enlighten them, who in turn will do it to their friends, etc.
There's a term for it that the left uses, affinity groups
They spread idealogies through groups of likeminded friends, who spread it further
@Hand Banana I know who he is. It was a joke based on the prestige of the speakers.
Thats a fair point. Also it's good to remember that in the eyes of communists and even the general public, there is no "Alt-Right" or "Alt-lite" they think of us as Nazis, or racists either way. The best way to go about it is by giving them resources at most to help educate themselves, but we should never force anything upon these guys and gals. They will soon be left with a choice, to follow us , or follow us. So either way i'm sure most will be on board, or they will be left behind.
They're so deluded that they think Paul Ryan's a Nazi
@Aaron - VA that's not true. The average Trump voter might not know the term Alt-lite, but plenty of non-mainline republicans and movement dogmatic conservatives would identify as civic nationalists more than any of those other groups, whether they know it or not
Death to Civic Nationalist
It's actually a pretty disgusting indictment of the whole thing that Civic Nationalism or Populism isn't or has t been the default for all politics for 80 years
Punch right until you can't go any further. Genocide now.