We had claims, explorers and colonists on the land

we had pacified it

and the British just sent an ultimatum TO THEIR OWN ALLY for us to give it up all

why ?

Because they wanted the land for themselves

Traitors

What land are you referring to @Mankn II

I remember I saw an animated map showing the control that European powers had over African land (as opposed to just claims) over time and Portugal did not have effective control over any major part of Africa until the 1890s

After the Scramble for Africa

Seriously

you saw an animated map

We explored the land

we captured the native leaders

and we were moving in

and then the British sent an Ultimatum

against their own ally I repeat

The Eternal Anglo

@Mankn II cite a source

Says nothing about it here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe

"While Stanley was exploring Congo on behalf of Leopold II of Belgium, the Franco-Italian marine officer Pierre de Brazza travelled into the western Congo basin and raised the French flag over the newly founded Brazzaville in 1881, thus occupying today's Republic of the Congo. Portugal, which also claimed the area due to old treaties with the native Kongo Empire, made a treaty with Britain on 26 February 1884 to block off the Congo Society's access to the Atlantic."

This is the closest thing I found that relates to what you described but even then it isn't as you portrayed it.

"The 1890 British Ultimatum was an ultimatum by the British government delivered on 11 January 1890 to Portugal. The ultimatum forced the retreat of Portuguese military forces from areas which had been claimed by Portugal on the basis of historical discovery and recent exploration, but which the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation. Portugal had attempted to claim a large area of land between its colonies of Mozambique and Angola including most of present-day Zimbabwe and Zambia and a large part of Malawi, which had been included in Portugal's "Rose-coloured Map".

It has sometimes been claimed that the British government's objections arose because the Portuguese claims clashed with its aspirations to create a Cape to Cairo Railway, linking its colonies from the south of Africa to those in the north. This seems unlikely, as in 1890 Germany already controlled German East Africa, now Tanzania, and Sudan was independent under Muhammad Ahmad. Rather, the British government was pressed into taking action by Cecil Rhodes, whose British South Africa Company was founded in 1888 south of the Zambezi and the African Lakes Company and British missionaries to the north."

@The Desert Fox V

@Mankn II what's that from tho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1890_British_Ultimatum

5m search

less than that

@Mankn II effective occupation is more claim than just exploring it

"but which the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation."

Meaning the UK had de facto control anyway

Seems fair to me

Cecil Rhodes got there 3 years earlier

In 1887

- Portugal sends explorers and army divisions into the land
- Portugal beats the natives
- British decide they want the land
- British send an ultimatum to their own ally

@The Desert Fox V bruh

our map was made in 1886

wtf are you on about

Effective occupation buddy

We occupied it

you didnt

you sent an Ultimatum