Message from @The State
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@Juan Filly if it helps the invader and is acomplishable then do it. Not doing it is treason at that point.
The British had nothing but claims either
and they didnt even have claims there
they just decided they did
It would be more like you actually have a PS4, I claim sovereignty over the TV, but then you actually buy it
lemme bleach yo gf if you care so much @Juan Filly
The British sent us a fucking ultimatum
Im not a race tratior.
thats not selling
I CLAIM THIS TELEVISION FOR HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH THE II
ALLAH SAVE THE QUEEN
Buying from a third party, not from you yourself in terms of the analogy
And again, they wanted a railroad that was only not built because the Germans got in the way, and the Germans were a lot more powerful than the Portuguese so they could actually enforce their own claims
We had claims, explorers and colonists on the land
we had pacified it
and the British just sent an ultimatum TO THEIR OWN ALLY for us to give it up all
why ?
Because they wanted the land for themselves
Traitors
What land are you referring to @Mankn II
I remember I saw an animated map showing the control that European powers had over African land (as opposed to just claims) over time and Portugal did not have effective control over any major part of Africa until the 1890s
After the Scramble for Africa
Seriously
you saw an animated map
We explored the land
we captured the native leaders
and we were moving in
and then the British sent an Ultimatum
against their own ally I repeat
The Eternal Anglo
@Mankn II cite a source
Says nothing about it here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe
"While Stanley was exploring Congo on behalf of Leopold II of Belgium, the Franco-Italian marine officer Pierre de Brazza travelled into the western Congo basin and raised the French flag over the newly founded Brazzaville in 1881, thus occupying today's Republic of the Congo. Portugal, which also claimed the area due to old treaties with the native Kongo Empire, made a treaty with Britain on 26 February 1884 to block off the Congo Society's access to the Atlantic."
This is the closest thing I found that relates to what you described but even then it isn't as you portrayed it.
"The 1890 British Ultimatum was an ultimatum by the British government delivered on 11 January 1890 to Portugal. The ultimatum forced the retreat of Portuguese military forces from areas which had been claimed by Portugal on the basis of historical discovery and recent exploration, but which the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation. Portugal had attempted to claim a large area of land between its colonies of Mozambique and Angola including most of present-day Zimbabwe and Zambia and a large part of Malawi, which had been included in Portugal's "Rose-coloured Map".
It has sometimes been claimed that the British government's objections arose because the Portuguese claims clashed with its aspirations to create a Cape to Cairo Railway, linking its colonies from the south of Africa to those in the north. This seems unlikely, as in 1890 Germany already controlled German East Africa, now Tanzania, and Sudan was independent under Muhammad Ahmad. Rather, the British government was pressed into taking action by Cecil Rhodes, whose British South Africa Company was founded in 1888 south of the Zambezi and the African Lakes Company and British missionaries to the north."
@Mankn II what's that from tho
5m search
less than that
@Mankn II effective occupation is more claim than just exploring it