Message from @Mankn II
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and we were moving in
and then the British sent an Ultimatum
against their own ally I repeat
The Eternal Anglo
@Mankn II cite a source
Says nothing about it here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe
"While Stanley was exploring Congo on behalf of Leopold II of Belgium, the Franco-Italian marine officer Pierre de Brazza travelled into the western Congo basin and raised the French flag over the newly founded Brazzaville in 1881, thus occupying today's Republic of the Congo. Portugal, which also claimed the area due to old treaties with the native Kongo Empire, made a treaty with Britain on 26 February 1884 to block off the Congo Society's access to the Atlantic."
This is the closest thing I found that relates to what you described but even then it isn't as you portrayed it.
"The 1890 British Ultimatum was an ultimatum by the British government delivered on 11 January 1890 to Portugal. The ultimatum forced the retreat of Portuguese military forces from areas which had been claimed by Portugal on the basis of historical discovery and recent exploration, but which the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation. Portugal had attempted to claim a large area of land between its colonies of Mozambique and Angola including most of present-day Zimbabwe and Zambia and a large part of Malawi, which had been included in Portugal's "Rose-coloured Map".
It has sometimes been claimed that the British government's objections arose because the Portuguese claims clashed with its aspirations to create a Cape to Cairo Railway, linking its colonies from the south of Africa to those in the north. This seems unlikely, as in 1890 Germany already controlled German East Africa, now Tanzania, and Sudan was independent under Muhammad Ahmad. Rather, the British government was pressed into taking action by Cecil Rhodes, whose British South Africa Company was founded in 1888 south of the Zambezi and the African Lakes Company and British missionaries to the north."
@Mankn II what's that from tho
5m search
less than that
@Mankn II effective occupation is more claim than just exploring it
"but which the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation."
Meaning the UK had de facto control anyway
Seems fair to me
Cecil Rhodes got there 3 years earlier
In 1887
- Portugal sends explorers and army divisions into the land
- Portugal beats the natives
- British decide they want the land
- British send an ultimatum to their own ally
@The Desert Fox V bruh
wtf are you on about
Effective occupation buddy
We occupied it
you didnt
you sent an Ultimatum
we left
From your own extract
"the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation."
"claimed by Portugal on the basis of historical discovery and recent exploration"
The UK's claim is stronger
then you sent people in
E T E R N A L A N G L O
"the United Kingdom claimed on the basis of effective occupation."
"CLAIMED"
By 1890 Rhodesia was already under the BSC's control
"EFFECTIVE OCCUPATION"
There was no effective occupation
...
we had a campaign against natives
Yes there was
I occupied your mother
Rhodes was already there