Message from @Eccles
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So why not fill those roles,
Making the country more economically productive?
Doing so reduces the standard of living for everyone else, for what? For benefit to a handful of greedy business owners
If they keep working there the wages will stay stagnant, If they don't then the wages will eventually increase which would lead to the average person fulfilling these jobs
We shouldn't really allow migrants in just so they can become a serf class to do all the low paying jobs
How does allowing an immigrant a job as a cleaner lower the standard of living for everyone else? @Eccles
Because you are keeping wages down and increasing contention for other limited resources
Compared to those jobs not being fulfiled you mean?
Contention for other limited resources puts the cost of those resources up
It's those business owners choice not to fulfil those jobs
Cleaners being paid less
Also, given the unemployment rate is 3.9% in the UK, that's a decent chunk of people that could do those jobs, they just don't. Is that a problem with the people, or the jobs themselves? It's irrelevant because adding cheap labour to the mix just makes the job market more complicated for people born in the country to get something they're qualified for, so why bother?
Affects other cleaners
Not the entire jobs market
Not true, PeP
Academic Agent has some primers on this
Suggest you go check his channel
You can link me specific videos
If there was unlimited land, and there were unlimited government services, and there was no welfare, then you could import as many serfs as you like and the benefits you describe could be realised
But we live in the real world which places constraints upon this
If your government prints infinite money, it means nothing more than the material it's printed on.
Doesn't directly address this particular question, but contains relevent tangential information
If money means nothing in a country, there's no reason for business to be there, so it devalues the money further.
But both Sewell and Keynes agree that you cannot have open borders and a welfare state simultaneously
In this specific case, the farmer can pay more, which means putting his prices up, or invest to get higher productivity via improved efficiency or automation
Or his business can go to someone else who outcompetes him
Or, he keeps the wages low and invests at the same time?
All these options do not involve the negative impact on everyone else that bringing in cheap migrant labour does
Possibly
Boris needs to step up
They all need to step up
Glad Dominic Grieve is out though, the guy is a fucken prick
Tories are legit manchildren
And labour are fragile and useless sacks of ovaries
When even May is showing up your maturity levels
And Eccles nice whataboutidm
examples of tories acting like utter children