Message from @SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck

Discord ID: 641367513967624263


2019-11-05 19:48:26 UTC  

@Machinimal @Arrias presumably because the other Emperors forgot all about it

2019-11-05 19:49:43 UTC  

ahh, yes the grand conspiracy to start a new religion apparently only known of by the emperor

2019-11-05 19:49:44 UTC  

in the article (if you read it), the scholar says that Jesus was allegedly created so people wouldn't follow a far more zealous sect of Judaism

2019-11-05 19:50:15 UTC  

because tasks like that are often performed by a singular individual

2019-11-05 19:51:11 UTC  

```Mr Atwill added: "They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system.```

2019-11-05 19:51:26 UTC  

I read that

2019-11-05 19:51:29 UTC  

.......which would explain why the Jews killed Jesus

2019-11-05 19:51:46 UTC  

but it doesn't address the issue of why they then persecuted the religion they're trying to spread

2019-11-05 19:51:53 UTC  

you can doubt all you want

2019-11-05 19:51:59 UTC  

the site was shit as well

2019-11-05 19:52:08 UTC  

so many fucking adds

2019-11-05 19:52:26 UTC  

Well then if Jews killed Jesus, fuck the Jews.

2019-11-05 19:52:35 UTC  

But why it would be Romans executing him then is beyond me.

2019-11-05 19:52:43 UTC  

I see what you mean.

2019-11-05 19:53:14 UTC  

Dunno, Rome persecuting Christianity seems really....contradictory from what I know of other religions citizens followed

2019-11-05 19:53:18 UTC  

christianity was adopted by rome 300 or so years after jesus's death

2019-11-05 19:53:50 UTC  

a fire in rome was supposedly blamed on christians

2019-11-05 19:54:06 UTC  

christians refused roman religious traditions such as sacrifice

2019-11-05 19:55:18 UTC  

To my knowledge, Christians blamed Nero for "fiddling" while Rome burned (he was a few miles away from Rome when the fire even happened IIRC), so the feeling was mutual if anything

2019-11-05 19:59:30 UTC  

Fucking Christians burning shit; should've left architectural and cultural destruction to the Muslims.

2019-11-05 20:05:31 UTC  

Doing a bit of research into it, the persecution of Christians is a tad overblown

2019-11-05 20:07:55 UTC  

oh no question that it gets exaggerated. much of history does

2019-11-05 20:08:14 UTC  

Quite a bit, in fact

2019-11-05 20:08:44 UTC  

Throwing Christians to the Lions either:
A) Didn't happen
B) Wasn't unique to Christians

2019-11-05 20:11:51 UTC  

I'm gonna go with the latter just to be sure, though I vaguely remember somebody making a case for the former in a book I read

2019-11-05 20:12:08 UTC  

the only Imperial persecution of Christians seemed to have occurred over the span of approximately....63 years, from 250 AD (when Decius administered an Edict because he was a superstitious fuck who wanted to beat the Goths) to about 313 AD (the Edict of Milan, which overruled Decius' edict and mandated that citizens treat Christians nicely)

2019-11-05 20:14:10 UTC  

though the case could be made that that period of solely persecuting Christians was far shorter, from 303 to 306, during the reign of Diocletian

2019-11-05 20:16:32 UTC  

Regardless, if Jesus were a figment of the imagination of a Roman Emperor who decided to make sure the Jews couldn't get TOO out of hand, then it's not TOO far out of the question to assume that other Emperors simply didn't know (since there were a few emperors after the alleged life of Jesus that simply waltzed into Rome with an army, this seems the most likely reason why some later Emperors didn't know)

2019-11-05 20:19:39 UTC  

I'd think that if you're trying to subversively disseminate a new religion, it would require a network large enough that even if someone did a complete and fresh takeover, it'd be nigh impossible to do so without learning of the plan

2019-11-05 20:20:40 UTC  

Dunno, the truth is sometimes stranger than fiction

2019-11-05 20:21:18 UTC  

agreed

2019-11-05 20:22:05 UTC  

and a lot of the stuff we actually know about Jesus is from like the 2nd century AD iirc

2019-11-05 20:22:39 UTC  

to my knowledge, we don't have mention of a 'Jesus' from records of that time period

2019-11-05 20:39:07 UTC  

isn't Tacitus one of the first Roman accounts of Christianity?

2019-11-05 20:48:08 UTC  

I think so?

2019-11-05 22:38:22 UTC  

SJWs trying to poke the hornet's nest once again

2019-11-05 22:38:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967610706526210/641406131474006017/patience_has_limits.png

2019-11-05 23:10:27 UTC  

There's going to come a day when this flips so hard, Hitler 2 mark boogaloo will come back in vengeance. Just an observation, not a statement of position, ***discord***