Message from @Zephyr Blackfish
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my first as well
"hey here's a new religion for you to believe that should ultimately pacify you." "but if you believe it we'll kill you."
Perhaps it was meant as a warning, that Roman citizens shouldn't worship Christ?
As Christ was made an example of, and the Romans justified the execution with the fact that Christ's teachings would have made the Empire and its people weak.
or it doesn't really make much sense
Either Christ did exist and the Romans executed him to prove a point, or they imagined him and told that story as a form of teaching and guidance to Roman citizens.
Either way, it was intended to discourage Christian worship.
well they actually executed him as a jewish heretic
enforcing jewish laws
also, everyone quotes the "turn the other cheek" but then ignore Luke 22
```He said, “This is different. Get ready for trouble. Look to what you’ll need; there are difficult times ahead. Pawn your coat and get a sword.```
@Machinimal @Arrias presumably because the other Emperors forgot all about it
ahh, yes the grand conspiracy to start a new religion apparently only known of by the emperor
in the article (if you read it), the scholar says that Jesus was allegedly created so people wouldn't follow a far more zealous sect of Judaism
because tasks like that are often performed by a singular individual
```Mr Atwill added: "They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system.```
I read that
.......which would explain why the Jews killed Jesus
but it doesn't address the issue of why they then persecuted the religion they're trying to spread
you can doubt all you want
the site was shit as well
so many fucking adds
But why it would be Romans executing him then is beyond me.
I see what you mean.
Dunno, Rome persecuting Christianity seems really....contradictory from what I know of other religions citizens followed
christianity was adopted by rome 300 or so years after jesus's death
a fire in rome was supposedly blamed on christians
christians refused roman religious traditions such as sacrifice
To my knowledge, Christians blamed Nero for "fiddling" while Rome burned (he was a few miles away from Rome when the fire even happened IIRC), so the feeling was mutual if anything
Fucking Christians burning shit; should've left architectural and cultural destruction to the Muslims.
Doing a bit of research into it, the persecution of Christians is a tad overblown
oh no question that it gets exaggerated. much of history does
Quite a bit, in fact
Throwing Christians to the Lions either:
A) Didn't happen
B) Wasn't unique to Christians
I'm gonna go with the latter just to be sure, though I vaguely remember somebody making a case for the former in a book I read
the only Imperial persecution of Christians seemed to have occurred over the span of approximately....63 years, from 250 AD (when Decius administered an Edict because he was a superstitious fuck who wanted to beat the Goths) to about 313 AD (the Edict of Milan, which overruled Decius' edict and mandated that citizens treat Christians nicely)
though the case could be made that that period of solely persecuting Christians was far shorter, from 303 to 306, during the reign of Diocletian
Regardless, if Jesus were a figment of the imagination of a Roman Emperor who decided to make sure the Jews couldn't get TOO out of hand, then it's not TOO far out of the question to assume that other Emperors simply didn't know (since there were a few emperors after the alleged life of Jesus that simply waltzed into Rome with an army, this seems the most likely reason why some later Emperors didn't know)
I'd think that if you're trying to subversively disseminate a new religion, it would require a network large enough that even if someone did a complete and fresh takeover, it'd be nigh impossible to do so without learning of the plan
Dunno, the truth is sometimes stranger than fiction