Message from @Jamec

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2019-11-01 09:17:08 UTC  

or as I observe with a lot of leftist ideologies axioms built ontop of axioms ontop of axioms that are all wrong 5 layers down

2019-11-01 09:17:25 UTC  

An inescapable web of rationalised falsehood

2019-11-01 09:17:45 UTC  

as an example, time-outs DO work however, they ONLY work with certain types of children

2019-11-01 09:18:13 UTC  

Its about application also

2019-11-01 09:18:19 UTC  

and this ability to understand when an idea or concept is applicable and when it IS NOT is a dying skill-set

2019-11-01 09:18:35 UTC  

Ie they have to actually know they are being punished and not just going through the motions

2019-11-01 09:18:39 UTC  

I wouldnt call that a skill

2019-11-01 09:18:47 UTC  

because while people today 'know more' they UNDERSTAND so very little

2019-11-01 09:18:49 UTC  

thats just based on intelligence and pattern recognition

2019-11-01 09:19:02 UTC  

and intelligent people will always be a minority

2019-11-01 09:19:02 UTC  

it's called 'judgement'

2019-11-01 09:19:04 UTC  

They don't think

2019-11-01 09:19:17 UTC  

something you can only develop by operating in a vacuum

2019-11-01 09:19:27 UTC  

who works in a vacuum today?

2019-11-01 09:19:32 UTC  

no one

2019-11-01 09:19:48 UTC  

Surely if they sat down and thought of how to effectively discipline their children and worked at it trial and error - experience. then they'd work it out

2019-11-01 09:19:52 UTC  

But they don't engage

2019-11-01 09:19:55 UTC  

They don't think

2019-11-01 09:20:06 UTC  

there is no incentive to do so

2019-11-01 09:20:13 UTC  

instead of trying to come up with a solution, instead of trying to solve problems without asking anyone, they simply look how other do it

2019-11-01 09:20:15 UTC  

let the school handle it

2019-11-01 09:20:18 UTC  

There is no problem solving though they know there is a problem

2019-11-01 09:20:26 UTC  

well you enjoy the money you have spent half your life collecting

2019-11-01 09:20:31 UTC  

Yes

2019-11-01 09:20:33 UTC  

thats the mentality

2019-11-01 09:20:36 UTC  

They ask others what to do

2019-11-01 09:20:38 UTC  

not really northern because children are different as well as circumstances are different

2019-11-01 09:20:38 UTC  

What is that?

2019-11-01 09:20:46 UTC  

Its a mark of dependence

2019-11-01 09:21:00 UTC  

They aren't self reliant independent people

2019-11-01 09:21:12 UTC  

you cannot compare a household where the majority of people respect reason and logic vs the houshould that respects might makes right

2019-11-01 09:21:31 UTC  

They are the kind of people who ask others for trivial advice they are perfectly capable and more qualified in giving

2019-11-01 09:21:45 UTC  

even if you account for the difference in children, what works under one roof will back-fire under the other roof

2019-11-01 09:22:02 UTC  

That is part of what I am saying

2019-11-01 09:22:10 UTC  

Your child is an individual with a personality

2019-11-01 09:22:19 UTC  

Ofc you have to tailor what you do to them

2019-11-01 09:22:34 UTC  

yes, but they are a CHILD first

2019-11-01 09:22:40 UTC  

an indiviuall with personality second

2019-11-01 09:23:04 UTC  

you MUST contain the outliers FIRST

2019-11-01 09:23:21 UTC  

otherwise, you invalidate any authority you might have

2019-11-01 09:23:32 UTC  

and destroy the ability to reach the individual