from what I understand, even security guards have to call a real cop to actually drag someone out

> mainly, in criminal law the state lets the husband testify as if he owned his wife's property

Yes and there's a reason for that. Marriage is a property contract. A corporate merger.

you are trying to apply a 'head in the clouds theory' to real life practice; morals and ethics rarely enter into it

just generalize it to property contracts in general honestly

is it legal or is it not?

Legal and lawful are two different things

correct

and morality isn't a function of the state

Agreed

https://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/LegalEthics/LegalVLawful.htm

I'd still like an answer to my question

I don't waste my time in the weeds of legality when I can take the high ground of law and morality.

wait, your statement above contradicts mine

Coolitic, it depends. You have the right to tell them to leave, and if they refuse, you can use escalating force, but the law asks you to do the most reasonable course of action in pursuit of that

ok

then why do security guards

call cops

is CIVIL law, a husband, a man working for an LLC and his wife are SEPERATE entiites

this includes contract law

Cuz they aren't trained

bruh

they are NOT allowed to testify on behalf of each other in civil law

MA, I'm using corporation in a different sense than you are

they ARE in criminal

they should make citizen's arrests the 11th bill of rights

T-E-S-T-I-F-Y

not represent

"Husband and wife are considered one mind in law." ~ Legal maxim

but that doesn't apply in contract law

they are seprate and distinct

that only applies in criminal law

If Coke buys Pepsi and they have a corporate merger, can Pepsi testify against Coke? That's like testifying against yourself. That is why they can't, cuz you can't force someone to self-incriminate

you aren't hearing me

listen to what i said; your example is inverted. in criminal law, the state treats certain parties as the SAME person

@Coolitic They CAN, but do they want the risk and the liability is the question. Most of the legal realm deals with liability.

in civil law this is NOT the case

also

duty to retreat

Is there a question in there, MA?

is the gayest concept on the planet

Duty to retreat is bullshit. Stand your ground should be universal law of the land

how does your coke and pepsi example apply?