Message from @Coolitic
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@Marushia Dark can I drag someone out of my property for trespassing
cuz I feel like the law around that is ambiguous
mainly, in criminal law the state lets the husband testify as if he owned his wife's property
I've gotten different responses
doesn't work like that in civil law
But yeah, MA, going back to our earlier conversation, if you wanna know the law, it's this simple and this hard: "Do no harm." Everything else stems from that. What is harm, exactly? Well, that's what you have philosophy and ethics for.
from what I understand, even security guards have to call a real cop to actually drag someone out
> mainly, in criminal law the state lets the husband testify as if he owned his wife's property
Yes and there's a reason for that. Marriage is a property contract. A corporate merger.
you are trying to apply a 'head in the clouds theory' to real life practice; morals and ethics rarely enter into it
just generalize it to property contracts in general honestly
is it legal or is it not?
Legal and lawful are two different things
correct
and morality isn't a function of the state
I'd still like an answer to my question
I don't waste my time in the weeds of legality when I can take the high ground of law and morality.
wait, your statement above contradicts mine
Coolitic, it depends. You have the right to tell them to leave, and if they refuse, you can use escalating force, but the law asks you to do the most reasonable course of action in pursuit of that
ok
call cops
is CIVIL law, a husband, a man working for an LLC and his wife are SEPERATE entiites
this includes contract law
Cuz they aren't trained
bruh
they are NOT allowed to testify on behalf of each other in civil law
MA, I'm using corporation in a different sense than you are
they ARE in criminal
they should make citizen's arrests the 11th bill of rights
T-E-S-T-I-F-Y
not represent
"Husband and wife are considered one mind in law." ~ Legal maxim
but that doesn't apply in contract law
they are seprate and distinct
that only applies in criminal law
If Coke buys Pepsi and they have a corporate merger, can Pepsi testify against Coke? That's like testifying against yourself. That is why they can't, cuz you can't force someone to self-incriminate
you aren't hearing me
listen to what i said; your example is inverted. in criminal law, the state treats certain parties as the SAME person
@Coolitic They CAN, but do they want the risk and the liability is the question. Most of the legal realm deals with liability.
in civil law this is NOT the case