Message from @wacka

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2019-10-20 12:07:40 UTC  

Yes, but why aren't they hiring someone because they are black or white or whatever?

2019-10-20 12:07:57 UTC  

They should be allowed to hire or not hire someone based on race

2019-10-20 12:08:04 UTC  

It's their business after all

2019-10-20 12:08:20 UTC  

They should be able to choose who they hire or don't hire

2019-10-20 12:08:23 UTC  

well someone in charge of a big corp might say "mUh RePARations" .. and decide not to hire white ppl for example

2019-10-20 12:08:30 UTC  

Well that's racist

2019-10-20 12:08:36 UTC  

That would damage the business too much

2019-10-20 12:08:50 UTC  

depends what area they are in

2019-10-20 12:09:00 UTC  

But my question was designed to give rise to the question "How do you know the decision to hire or not hire a white or black or whatever person was racist"?

2019-10-20 12:09:02 UTC  

Think about all the skilled workers they would lose

2019-10-20 12:09:04 UTC  

in portland USA it might be good for business ;P

2019-10-20 12:09:41 UTC  

@Eccles It shouldn't matter, I believe that a business should be able to hire or not hire someone for any reason

2019-10-20 12:09:51 UTC  

That's clear, lizard

2019-10-20 12:09:53 UTC  

Eccles, I mean like.. if the corp has a policy literally saying, no <insert race>

2019-10-20 12:10:09 UTC  

You're for repealing the human rights act, and I totally support that - there should be no protected characteristics in society

2019-10-20 12:10:34 UTC  

Pretty much

2019-10-20 12:10:40 UTC  

And the Race Relations Act

2019-10-20 12:10:42 UTC  

Why though, wacka? You're assuming their motives

2019-10-20 12:11:38 UTC  

what motive could there be when a corp has a policy of "no <insert race>"?

2019-10-20 12:12:38 UTC  

Racism. Practicality

2019-10-20 12:13:55 UTC  

so its pretty safe to assume the motive is racism then..

2019-10-20 12:14:17 UTC  

Sidestepping to another protected characteristic, religion, should a company set up to maintain and run mosques and further the Islamic faith be banned from preferring Islamic applications?

2019-10-20 12:14:45 UTC  

Should a womans refuge be banned from preferring to hire women?

2019-10-20 12:15:26 UTC  

why cant men be hired at a womans refuge?

2019-10-20 12:15:37 UTC  

in fact... wouldnt it be preferable to have some men there?

2019-10-20 12:15:42 UTC  

Nope

2019-10-20 12:15:50 UTC  

The 'customers' might have a preference for women

2019-10-20 12:16:09 UTC  

thats just going to psychological mess them up more

2019-10-20 12:16:17 UTC  

It's what happens now

2019-10-20 12:16:22 UTC  

they need to get back to some resemblance of normality...

2019-10-20 12:16:33 UTC  

Because muhxxtoxicmasculinity

2019-10-20 12:16:38 UTC  

in the real world... men exist... they cant hide forever

2019-10-20 12:17:04 UTC  

they need to be around men to realise #NotAllMen or whatever

2019-10-20 12:17:10 UTC  

Besides the point though, both those examples would be considered reasonable by todays standards

2019-10-20 12:17:13 UTC  

Tbf, when people are in a mental unstable place, pandering (I.E. hiring only women at womens shelters) might not be awful

2019-10-20 12:17:33 UTC  

So if those are considered reasonable, it proves there isn't a black and white standard

2019-10-20 12:17:46 UTC  

When someone is so broken, you might need to nurture them a bit before you can bring them back to standard society

2019-10-20 12:17:55 UTC  

And if there isn't a black and white standard, the question then becomes "Who are you to decide what justifies unreasonable discrimination?"

2019-10-20 12:18:04 UTC  

By what metric are we deciding?

2019-10-20 12:18:40 UTC  

its not black or white... its a basic foundation of protecting individual rights

2019-10-20 12:18:47 UTC  

Except it's not