Message from @Eccles

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2019-10-20 12:10:42 UTC  

Why though, wacka? You're assuming their motives

2019-10-20 12:11:38 UTC  

what motive could there be when a corp has a policy of "no <insert race>"?

2019-10-20 12:12:38 UTC  

Racism. Practicality

2019-10-20 12:13:55 UTC  

so its pretty safe to assume the motive is racism then..

2019-10-20 12:14:17 UTC  

Sidestepping to another protected characteristic, religion, should a company set up to maintain and run mosques and further the Islamic faith be banned from preferring Islamic applications?

2019-10-20 12:14:45 UTC  

Should a womans refuge be banned from preferring to hire women?

2019-10-20 12:15:26 UTC  

why cant men be hired at a womans refuge?

2019-10-20 12:15:37 UTC  

in fact... wouldnt it be preferable to have some men there?

2019-10-20 12:15:42 UTC  

Nope

2019-10-20 12:15:50 UTC  

The 'customers' might have a preference for women

2019-10-20 12:16:09 UTC  

thats just going to psychological mess them up more

2019-10-20 12:16:17 UTC  

It's what happens now

2019-10-20 12:16:22 UTC  

they need to get back to some resemblance of normality...

2019-10-20 12:16:33 UTC  

Because muhxxtoxicmasculinity

2019-10-20 12:16:38 UTC  

in the real world... men exist... they cant hide forever

2019-10-20 12:17:04 UTC  

they need to be around men to realise #NotAllMen or whatever

2019-10-20 12:17:10 UTC  

Besides the point though, both those examples would be considered reasonable by todays standards

2019-10-20 12:17:13 UTC  

Tbf, when people are in a mental unstable place, pandering (I.E. hiring only women at womens shelters) might not be awful

2019-10-20 12:17:33 UTC  

So if those are considered reasonable, it proves there isn't a black and white standard

2019-10-20 12:17:46 UTC  

When someone is so broken, you might need to nurture them a bit before you can bring them back to standard society

2019-10-20 12:17:55 UTC  

And if there isn't a black and white standard, the question then becomes "Who are you to decide what justifies unreasonable discrimination?"

2019-10-20 12:18:04 UTC  

By what metric are we deciding?

2019-10-20 12:18:40 UTC  

its not black or white... its a basic foundation of protecting individual rights

2019-10-20 12:18:47 UTC  

Except it's not

2019-10-20 12:18:53 UTC  

In it's current form

2019-10-20 12:19:04 UTC  

You don't have a right to work at someone else's business or organisation

2019-10-20 12:19:07 UTC  

These rights are in opposition to each other

2019-10-20 12:19:17 UTC  

No you dont

2019-10-20 12:19:23 UTC  

Im not saying... as you suggested... to start building mosques.... Im just saying you dont have to discriminate... that has nothing to do with accomodating anything more

2019-10-20 12:19:49 UTC  

But the person doesnt have the right to discriminate on the base of protected characteristics

2019-10-20 12:19:53 UTC  

But you have to define what discrimination means

2019-10-20 12:20:10 UTC  

of course you dont have a right to work at someones business.. no-one suggested that..

2019-10-20 12:20:12 UTC  

I think DC has the right idea with politics being protected too

2019-10-20 12:20:22 UTC  

DC?

2019-10-20 12:20:28 UTC  

Washington

2019-10-20 12:20:37 UTC  

Im saying you have a right not to be discriminated against just because you are white

2019-10-20 12:20:41 UTC  

Sound suspiciously like bollocks, wladfa

2019-10-20 12:20:53 UTC  

For certain values of "discrimination", wacka

2019-10-20 12:21:05 UTC  

@wacka Why not, Why should someone be forced to hire you even if they don't want to based on your race?

2019-10-20 12:21:19 UTC  

Now you're arguing in the abstract

2019-10-20 12:21:22 UTC  

nobodys forcing anyone to hire anyone ... ?!?!