Im saying you have a right not to be discriminated against just because you are white

Sound suspiciously like bollocks, wladfa

For certain values of "discrimination", wacka

@wacka Why not, Why should someone be forced to hire you even if they don't want to based on your race?

Now you're arguing in the abstract

nobodys forcing anyone to hire anyone ... ?!?!

Wacka, you're one step away from "if you don't date a trans woman, you're discriminating"

I'm not

Which part of my statement was that

not really

not even close

So here's where I come down:

If you are banning discrimination based on race then if the owner of a business that doesn't want to hire white people for instance could be forced to anyway due to discrimination laws

I'm saying people shouldnt use these classifications as judgement materials when hiring

businesses dont date people

Shouldnt*

that is absurd

I'm no where near who gets to date whom

The -state- and it's institutions should not be able to -unfairly- discriminate based on what has til now been called 'arbtirary characteristics' - the state and it's institutions should always as a matter of course treat every person as an individual

They shouldn't hire based on those characteristics but they should be allowed to if they wish

Well that's a social contract, not a legal one, lizard

There already effectively is one

Not many people would hire based on race if it was suddenly made legal

Indeed

A handful of racists

But we should get rid of the legal aspect of it to allow people to hire based on race if they so wish

Well I agree, but not for those reasons

I disagree

Hiring based on race is in the old sense of the word, racist

Fundamentally the way i see it is, If you have created a business yourself then it is yours to do with as you wish and therefore you should be able to hire who you want based on any characteristic unhindered by any discriminations laws

Ok, but we dont live in an anarco-capitalist utopia

sounds like an argument the far left would make to hire only black women and no-one else

So you're gonna need to change your ideas to reflect more the system we actually live under

If you want to say these are your ideals then that's fine, but you're just serving the political ideology you have subscribed too

@wacka The Far Left aren't known for supporting the rights of the Business owner

they are now

twitter and facebook can ban who they want according to them... theyre constantly sticking up for big tech

You're still in 2005 bud

Do you think they would have the same view if Facebook decided to ban everyone who is left wing?

I don't think they would

Dude, stay in one place with the argument