Message from @Eccles
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@wacka Why not, Why should someone be forced to hire you even if they don't want to based on your race?
Now you're arguing in the abstract
nobodys forcing anyone to hire anyone ... ?!?!
Wacka, you're one step away from "if you don't date a trans woman, you're discriminating"
I'm not
Which part of my statement was that
not really
not even close
So here's where I come down:
If you are banning discrimination based on race then if the owner of a business that doesn't want to hire white people for instance could be forced to anyway due to discrimination laws
I'm saying people shouldnt use these classifications as judgement materials when hiring
businesses dont date people
Shouldnt*
that is absurd
I'm no where near who gets to date whom
The -state- and it's institutions should not be able to -unfairly- discriminate based on what has til now been called 'arbtirary characteristics' - the state and it's institutions should always as a matter of course treat every person as an individual
They shouldn't hire based on those characteristics but they should be allowed to if they wish
Well that's a social contract, not a legal one, lizard
There already effectively is one
Not many people would hire based on race if it was suddenly made legal
A handful of racists
But we should get rid of the legal aspect of it to allow people to hire based on race if they so wish
Well I agree, but not for those reasons
I disagree
Hiring based on race is in the old sense of the word, racist
Fundamentally the way i see it is, If you have created a business yourself then it is yours to do with as you wish and therefore you should be able to hire who you want based on any characteristic unhindered by any discriminations laws
Ok, but we dont live in an anarco-capitalist utopia
sounds like an argument the far left would make to hire only black women and no-one else
So you're gonna need to change your ideas to reflect more the system we actually live under
If you want to say these are your ideals then that's fine, but you're just serving the political ideology you have subscribed too
@wacka The Far Left aren't known for supporting the rights of the Business owner
they are now
twitter and facebook can ban who they want according to them... theyre constantly sticking up for big tech
You're still in 2005 bud
Do you think they would have the same view if Facebook decided to ban everyone who is left wing?
I don't think they would
Dude, stay in one place with the argument
maybe it should be okay to allow discrimination based on race in the hiring process for everyone except white people
No
i don't see why we need to protect non-whites in hiring