Many people share this view

I completely disagree with that

How is it not? You are willfully choosing to not engage or even just listen to someone's views. It only harms you

yeah, you could learn something from him if you weren't hung up on one thing he said. look how long this chat has been a back and forth about one stupid line

it's petty

It is better to have the option than it is to completely excommunicate them like some high school teen girl drama

Goddamn 30mins? Woah. Time sure flies. Except when learning. Because fuck learning

Yeah right

I learn so much from a sophist

I think you guys really need to look up what that term means

Or you need to deal with an actual sophist for once

Then you'll know what's up

It's like trying to instill empathy into a psychopath

It's a useless endeavor

And from a single line you know this to be true?

No, the whole convseration

Have you read it?

Not personally, not yet

Then read it

Maybe you learn something about sophistry

He never did that the HoL exists to make things less democratic. But that as a consequence, it doesn't have as much democracy as it could be

Holy shit

What mental gymnastics

When you have the whole context in front of you, how do you come to that conclusion

The EU is proof that you can always vote for tyranny, but you have shoot your way out of it.

Seriously, as an American I ask, when will you guys do what we did in 1776?

"HoL makes things less democratic, which doesn't mean it's meant to make things less democratic"
Bullshit, it's *meant* to make things less democratic, this is indisputable, because it's inherently less democratic and they have a conscious choice of elimininating it and installing something in place that increases democracy. They make a *conscious choice,* these politicians are not *stupid,* and they know exactly what they're doing.

This is a classic example of sophism

Politicians do the exact same thing

Just throw sand in people's eyes until they start bleeding

buy buy buy buy buy https://www.cityam.com/1271556-2/

No.

😛

Now what?

is it time for the patriots to go onto the streets

At some point, you may have too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/dknmwu/lying_is_the_default_setting_as_brexit_corruption/

Nice article on the state of our media

Didn’t quite realise how dumb it was that there was almost no reporting on the actual detail of the deal

Just on its chances of passing or not

Suspicious. To be fair, if they did tell the details, nobody would want it. Again <:smugon:512048583806025739>