Message from @Dubdogelmo
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No societal ethics
why not, death is quick and final
The thought of one person ending the life of another sickens me.
no criminal ever put to death reoffended,fact
and no person wrongfully convicted put to death came back to life, fact
@Crafty Nihilism is the only philosophy that actually believes in freedom of the individual
think of how much taxpayers cash is saved
All others want the average person to submit and agree with a socially constructed moral philosophy
Nihilism says to create you own morals
Revaluate all values
Only base morals on modern reality
i agree with that crafty, thats where the line lies for me, not in actually disposing of someone, but making sure its the right person to die
1 person dies every second
I simply cannot grasp why anyone would care about one life
However with a society with laws, those laws must be built on a societal ethic
and as we live in a society, we have to determine what we believe to be ethically sound
Humans are not crazy beings, We won't go around killing each other if we don't have societal ethics
plenty of murderers in the world that combat your point
We can easily perceive what helps society and act accordingly without morality
and I was distinguishing ethics from someones personal morality
though they are linked
Making sure society survives is not based on morality, It is based on the belief of self preservation
same as 'gang member's they only try and rule little gangs through fear, lock them up in a public places and ridcule them, make everyone see who pathetic they are, shame has a lot of power
'survives' is a very broad term
If we go around killing each other society won't last very long
If we don't do that it will last longer
However the view that killing is wrong is based in ethics and upheld with laws
Self-Preservation and Realism would prevent everyone just going crazy
With your philosophy there is no reason e.g. to crack down on inner city gangs
It is based on the ethics of some people
even if they effect everyone else
No
It calls for revaluating all socially created values
drag them in to a public place and lash them, watch how much fear they project when they piss themselves from the pain
Ethics can be based on realism instead of Morality
could you follow someone who pissed themselves screaming in a public square?
@Dubdogelmo We would crack down on those things because they damage society
Gangs don't help society at all
lizard i think you are assuming we start with a baseline for people's psychological traits