Message from @Joshu
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For example
I guess
This is why the right to speech ends after you call directly on someone to take action against another
as that right has then negated that other person's right to autonomy
It's also why the abortion argument is difficult
As you have to judge when the foetus gains their humans rights
When does your right to autonomy start infringing on the foetus's right to life
For example
Positive and negative freedoms.
Depends on your point of view.
I see positive as in rights
However not extreme
Social mobility is good
But not if it sacrifices basic rights.
It's the auth vs lib argument essentially
Negative freedom (or negative liberty) consists of freedom from something whereas positive freedom (or positive liberty) consists of the ability to do something.
Your social mobility would be considered positive freedom
They intersect a bit
I have the ability to speak because I am free from prosecution due to it.
Mhm
However things like "I have the ability to be a worker because I am not free to do anything else" such as seen in some places in history is lacking basically both.
It truth true freedom gives you a helping of both types but not too much of one.
How on earth can you consider social mobility a positive right? I mean if you have a caste system and have to remain at whatever class you are born *that* would be a positive right. Simply allowing people to achieve whatever they can in life is still a negative right. I suppose if social mobility were determined by government grants you could call it a positive right but you would also call it a dystopian nightmare........
"I suppose if social mobility were determined by government grants you could call it a positive right but you would also call it a dystopian nightmare........"
I would argue that is what Britain is, hence said what I said
Oh so you're saying that you guys do social mobility wrong?
When it encourages foreigners to swarm here en mass? Yeah.
Wait how does that relate to social status???
Any pro brexit peeps here
I fucking wonder Austin
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Also
Did you hear about the delay of the delay
According to the guardian no less
"Senior sources" have said that johnson threat to pull the deal if Corbyn doesn't agree to an election will delay their decision until Monday or Tuesday.
The delayed delay
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Amazing.
God imagine if it comes down to "GE or no deal"