It wasn't even political speech, he made a joke

One that actually mocks Nazis, and that was used to call him a Nazi

These real life consequences speak very clearly, public appearances and voicing political views are high risk low reward ventures for most people

I mean that is more of an issue if you *are* someone in the postgrad/100K club. Take like Bogossian. He's in trouble because his career is as an academic and academia is in that small club. I'm in heavy industry and XYZ mid-level industrial producer does not even *have* a PR department.

It's an issue at every level

Lindsay Shepherd is another example. She also has mouths to feed, if only her own, idk.

It's an open secret that certain papers are advised not to be published so as to not harm one's own career chances.

Lindsay's career *in academia*?

Generally, not just in academia

Employers don't want trouble, is this news for you?

Imagine having to feed several mouths

What risks are you willing to take?

It's easy enough to test. Any one of these people could put out a casting call for people who are in the demographic.

Oh please

I'll take your words seriously when you walk the walk

I'd go on any of those shows in a heartbeat.

What's your current occupation?

Do you have kids?

Just so I know what your risk is

I am in heavy industry. We build capital goods. I have been doing this for more than a decade.

So low risk in that regard, and no kids since you didn't mention it, so another low risk

So at least I wouldn't *not* recommend putting yourself out there, after all you don't have much to risk.
I'm only saying it's easy for you.

Other people don't have that privilege of being lone wolves or having low financial risk

It's not that uncommon. Look I can give you an example. I got celled here for posting a meme that was considered 'NSFW'. My *boss* thought it was funny and likely the *owner of the company* would have laughed at it. Because outside of academia very few people consider these things to be serious offenses. We are too busy making things that work.

Celled here

Is that your idea of serious consequences?

Do you understand that people like Harris and Peterson have *existential fears* ?

Posting rights or whatever on discord is child's play

How do you even compare that, it's ridiculous

Like playing with plastic swords in the backyard and calling it real war

Peterson and Harris have existential fears because their careers are based in membership in a culture that is censorious. I don't. Most people don't. Most people live in a world where **nobody** reads the NY Times.

That is precisely my point, how did you not get this

I was talking about people losing opportunities in their own respective fields

What do you have to lose compared to them, nothing

And I was talking about the narrow feild of perspectives people like Harris are exposed to.

I explained that the people who are actually capable of standing up to Harris have too much riding on it

It makes no sense for them to challenge him, it's a net negative risk-reward scenario

So those who do "challenge" him tend to agree with him

This is why echo chambers happen

Among other reasons, but it's the number one reason

The echo chamber happens because of selection bias. When you only speak to people within a narrow demographic.....